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I caught my wife having an affair a couple months ago. I notified the om's sife and he quickly brolke it off with w. She was planning on moving him in and seeing the last of me. She had since read the book entitiled "His needs, her needs" and realizes she made a huge mistake. She wants to move on and forget about the om. I want to move on as well but can't seem to forget about the hurt and deceit. I would like to forgive OM as well, but....too hard right now. How can I move on? How can w regain my trust? Should I try to contact OM? I need to read the other book but worry about finding the time with school, work, and the children. BTW, the other man is a member here and seems to be trying to fix the marriage that he almost flushed. He knows that my w has read his posts, but I don't think he knows that I have too.

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I basically forgave the OM when I decided not to kill him. As far as him ever knowing whether or not I forgive/forgave him, that's his problem not mine. I forgave him like I would a thief breaking into my home. I'll never shake hands with him, but I'm not going to hurt myself hating him either. I have no interest in him.

I have a vested interest in my FWW so I need to show her my forgiveness.


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The really good news here is that you both want to move on together. Expecting it to happen overnight would be unrealistic. What you DO have here is an opportunity to experience something like radical honesty. Since so much is in the open it may be a great place to start rebuilding with a rock-solid foundation.

I'm not sure what you would gain with further contact with the OM. Whether or not you need to forgive the OM I would leave with you. The key is to forgive your W. By understanding that she has a unique set of EN's and that she may have felt some of them unmet, you go a long way towards understanding, and with understanding comes forgiveness. I have read many threads here where the BS has no control over the situation. It sounds in this case like the ball is in your court and you are taking a healthy approach. I wish you well.

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She wants to move on and forget about the om. I want to move on as well but can't seem to forget about the hurt and deceit. I would like to forgive OM as well, but....too hard right now. How can I move on?

I think that almost all WW would like nothing more than just forget and move on. That was my experience for sure. After the A ends and they know they made a huge mistake, it is probably normal for the WW to want to just forget about the past and move forward.

If it was just that easy. You and your FWW need to have some serious discussions about your plan of how that you both are going to recover from this. I believe the first steps are as follows:

1) Commit to radical honesty. In a true partnership, there should be no secrets. Create an environment where your wife understands that you will try your best to refrain from angry outbursts and disrepectful judgements especially concering the A. In this environment she will learn to be comfortable and open up with you.

2) It is very important to make sure that both of you commit sufficient time to each other of undivided attention. My FWW and I started taking a walk each night. We have privacy and can discuss whatever is on our mind without the disruptions of TV, kids, laundry,etc. Early on I would really try to get at least 25-30 hours each week with at least an hour or two each day. The more the better. SH recommends at least 15 hours per week for all M.

3) Find a good MC and start going immediately. Make sure the MC is pro-marriage. You may both need IC as well. Professional guidance is vital in this process. The Harley's do theirs by phone which has some advantages of anonimity and convenience (we have to travel about 1.25 hours each way but travel time is worth the results.)

4) Complete the EN questionaire and discuss with each other. Find out how that you can both meet each others most important EN's and make a conscious effort everyday to do that.

5) Explain to your wife that although you want more than anything else to rebuild your relationship, her poor choices have caused you some pain that must be healed. The trust and innocence of your marriage is gone. You cannot undo what has been done, but you both can work through the issues building up to the affair and understand why the affair happened. In order for you as a BS to move forward, most likely, there are going to have to be two things forthcoming, time and information. Your FWW must understand that she is not in a position to bargain for what information that you need to accept what has happened and to try to work towards foregiveness. The more open she is and the longer that she maintains radical honesty with you about whatever your thoughts or questions are, the less you will want to know additional information over time. Do not put a time limit on asking her questions about what has happened. But you can set some boundaries that say if either of you gets uncomfortable with something that you can agree to come back to that issue later that day or in a few days.

5) Set some boundaries for your marriage. Mutual friends. NC with OM, accountability for time, openess on cell records, email, etc., policy of joint agreement. Even though the A is apparently over, these boundaries make it more difficult a relapse to occur.

Work everyday to Plan A with her. The hardest part of plan A is to get the A stopped. It appears that is already done but you must work on the issues that created the environment where your wife chose to fulfill her needs outside the M.

As for forgiving the OM...my personal opinion is don't waste your time. Pray that the Lord will replace your hate and want for vengence against him with compassion. He slept with someone else's wife. Doesn't matter why, but he has to live with what he has done for the rest of his life. Hopefully, if you focus your energy on rebuilding your R with your FWW instead of OM, good things will happen. You will eventually get to a point where you could give twoshits about him. Mr. Wonderings reminds us that the opposite of love is not hate, it indifference. When you become indifferent to OM (he is no longer an issue), you are well into recovery. The important thing is that you have regained control of your life. It is your choice to remain committed to the M, your choice to place reasonable boundaries in the marriage, and your choice to become the H that you wife has always wanted. If she is serious about rebuilding this M she will do the same and your M, although different than it ever was before the A, has an opportunity to be more fulfilling than ever before.


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Gotcha. Your W has put herself in a very chaotic situation. It would be good for you to try to heal and recovery from the A. Do not contact OM, it will not achieve anything. He needs to work on restoring his M, and you need to work on restoring yours.

No contact is extremely important for both the OM and your W.

All excellent advice by nottoday.

I do think it is helpful to read Surviving An Affair to see how affairs happen. This will help you from demonizing OM or your W. People have problems, people have poor boundaries, people are weak, people make bad choices. Painful choices. I have come to believe that anyone can become involved in an affair given the right timing, OP, lack of boundaries, and lovebank deposits. Seriously. This knowledge will help you to forgive your W and OM...

BTW, you did the right thing by exposing the A to OMW, as painful as that was. Good job!!!

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FWH 39
M 1992; DD 18. 13
OC 8-05 - no contact
In recovery 8 years
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Thank you all for the input. I hope the healing continues.


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