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A comment on the statistics.

Worldwide I think those numbers are reasonable. In countries like USA, UK, Norway, Finland and Italy I would expect the ratio to be more balanced. But remember when dealing with this kind of statistics the the Indian and Chinice billions will count much. And in these peoples the Christian faith has not yet made it into huge numbers. Though exciting news these days come from both these continents.

Except for Europe and North America where the Christian faith is stagnant or declining, the situation in the other continents are one of rapid growth. In an interview with the devil you must expect that truths and half truths are used to discourage us. He is a master of that art!

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So Satan even uses that "knowledge" to continue his lies designed to keep us crippled and separated from God....only now he tries to use GUILT.

Here... is where "I thought" my H should have went through a tremendous amount of guilt, (2 1/2 months of it). I felt he deserved the guilt, and I wasn't helping him out of it! I couldn't bring myself to hug him, kiss him. I didn't feel comfortable, infact I felt very annoyed and disturbed when he was in my presence... Everything was a trigger, where he went, what time he was there, a song, certain things he would say.... I don't really know of any infidelity where forgiveness came so quickly and instantaneously from a BS. But through faith, Gods help, keeping evil away, and doing what it takes for recovery, it will get easier.


My H was so weak due to fear and guilt. I was so weak due to hurt. It really helps us when sincere people come to pray and help also.

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To those who "surrender" to God....they know the truth of God's love and God's faithfulness to ALL of His promises....they learn what the "armor" is that they need to "put on."

FH, Yes,I believe those are the keys to overcoming.

Keeping the faith, and confidence.

Thanks FH,
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FH, I finally had the time to watch this...powerful and very sad. Thank you for posting the link.


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I sent this to all my friends....

and to my xh...

and to his parents...my xil's (who my xfil has struggled with adultery too..cheating on my xmil)

and to his sister and bil...

and to his business partner...

and to his first ow...

and to his ow/w....

I sent it out to about 40 people.

and asked them to choose sides...and to choose well.


me:37 BS; s:7; xh:38; OW:26;eloped w/OW 1 wk after D: 12/29/03. OC born 3/17/04. Happy! Blessed to be the mother of a wonderful son..great profession..Life's good!
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Indeed! Very powerful and thought provoking! Thanks for posting it, I'll be sharing it!

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Thought provoking but very much propaganda for Satan.

You see, the author says Satan claims 3421 of the 3422. But Jesus is the Good Shepherd. We are ALL the 1 He seeks. Eventually, He will claim all of us as we claim Him.

This author buys into Satan's lie that he is more powerful than Jesus at winning over the hearts of human-kind.

My Lord is powerful; He is governed by Love. And with patience, Love wins all conflicts. If we let go of the outcome and turn that over to Him, even the conflicts we see here are turned for good.

This author forgets that through Our Lord, ALL things turn for our good, because we love Him.

Deceit and discouragement are powerful weapons for evil. I am not deceived by a number. I am not afraid of a number; nor am I discouraged. Jesus is infinite, and thus, since I am one, and you are one, and every person who's heart breaks from sin is one, we are all WON by the power of the atonement.


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The ? that made recovery possible: "Which lovebuster do I do the most that hurts the worst"?

The statement that signaled my personal recovery and the turning point in our marriage recovery: "I don't need to be married that badly!"

If you're interested in saving your relationship, you'll work on it when it's convenient. If you're committed, you'll accept no excuses.
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This author buys into Satan's lie that he is more powerful than Jesus at winning over the hearts of human-kind.

KaylaAndy, you don't know who the author is then, if that is what you believe.

But Jesus is the Good Shepherd. We are ALL the 1 He seeks. Eventually, He will claim all of us as we claim Him.


KaylaAndy, this is true, but it in no way states that ALL will come to Christ. In fact, MOST will not. If you are arguing that all will be saved regardless of whether or not they accept Jesus, then I would refer you back to Scripture, as does the "interview," in that the path to salvation is narrow and only a few will choose it.

This author forgets that through Our Lord, ALL things turn for our good, because we love Him.

This is a TRUE promise, but it is a promise of God that is ONLY for those who accept Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior. It is not for unbelievers.

My Lord is powerful; He is governed by Love. And with patience, Love wins all conflicts. Not true. We are commanded to love even if we "Don't win." "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son....that whosoever believes on him should not perish, but have everlasting life." Jesus died in love for us and in obedience to the Father, KNOWING that the vast majority of people would never accept him and would choose the wide road to destruction instead. God will ultimately win the war and create a new universe, but eternal damnation awaits those who God loved, but who rejected Him.

God bless.

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Thought provoking but very much propaganda for Satan.

You see, the author says Satan claims 3421 of the 3422. But Jesus is the Good Shepherd. We are ALL the 1 He seeks. Eventually, He will claim all of us as we claim Him.

This author buys into Satan's lie that he is more powerful than Jesus at winning over the hearts of human-kind.

My Lord is powerful; He is governed by Love. And with patience, Love wins all conflicts. If we let go of the outcome and turn that over to Him, even the conflicts we see here are turned for good.

This author forgets that through Our Lord, ALL things turn for our good, because we love Him.

Deceit and discouragement are powerful weapons for evil. I am not deceived by a number. I am not afraid of a number; nor am I discouraged. Jesus is infinite, and thus, since I am one, and you are one, and every person who's heart breaks from sin is one, we are all WON by the power of the atonement.

Somewhat true, Kayla. But the point of that presentation was to say that MOST will not choose the atonement...most will not choose the sacrifice that Jesus made. The atonement is for everyone, but most (a large majority) will not choose Jesus.

And then they will die, and come to meet Jesus and He will say "I never knew you."

No one is sent to He!!. They choose He!!. Jesus said there is no luke warm people...that if you are not for Him, then you are against Him. If you dont choose Him, then you have chosen Satan.

Everyone has a master. That master is either Jesus...or it is Satan. No one remains in the middle. And as that interview said, the sad thing is that the number that choose the side of the Devil dwarfs the number that choose Jesus. But while sad, I am not despondent because I know that these people chose to be with Satan, rather than Jesus.

I will say it again...if we do not chose Jesus as our Lord and Savior, lay down our life and our agenda and pursue His...then we are not for Him...we are not with Him. And thus, we are for Satan.

It is that simple.

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