Welcome to the
Marriage Builders® Discussion Forum

This is a community where people come in search of marriage related support, answers, or encouragement. Also, information about the Marriage Builders principles can be found in the books available for sale in the Marriage Builders® Bookstore.
If you would like to join our guidance forum, please read the Announcement Forum for instructions, rules, & guidelines.
The members of this community are peers and not professionals. Professional coaching is available by clicking on the link titled Coaching Center at the top of this page.
We trust that you will find the Marriage Builders® Discussion Forum to be a helpful resource for you. We look forward to your participation.
Once you have reviewed all the FAQ, tech support and announcement information, if you still have problems that are not addressed, please e-mail the administrators at mbrestored@gmail.com
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,474
C
Member
Offline
Member
C
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,474
BreakingThread,
You might want to cut and paste your part of the story and add it to Damage_Inc.'s thread. In fairness to Harley, he doesn't know of the abuse. Breaking down a door is one step away from physical abuse of you.
Cherishing

Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 35,996
P
Member
OP Offline
Member
P
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 35,996
Quote
Pep...unless the counsellor actually saw the gashed foot, it's impossible for her to know whether the incident actually happened. For all we know (and with apologies to Breaking Thread), she may have had reason to think the incident fictional or exaggerated. The person who should have reported the incident is Breaking Thread.


TA.....

Certain professions are obligated to report suspected abuse. NOT obligated to observe, not obligated to prove, not obligated to investigate abuse. Only obligated to report.

I AM in such a position. So are teachers, and counselors.

I recently spoke to a social worker inquiring if I needed to report something I thought had about a 20% chance of being true. I did not trust the teenager who was involved to be entirely accurate in her story. She had a self-serving reason for telling me the story. I suspected she was fabricating or at least making parts of her story about her mother much worse than they actually were. When I spoke to the DCS social worker, I told her I thought this was probably not an accurate claim, but I did not know it was NOT accurate either. She said I HAD TO REPORT IT .. and that their department would determine which parts, if any, of the story were true.

The thing is ....

you can't have it both ways

you can't say someone's behavior perhaps rises to the level of abuse and then expect the (obligated reporter) professional to NOT report.

pick one

A. there was no possible abuse, no report required.

B. it could be abuse, report is mandated by law

Last edited by Pepperband; 11/28/05 11:10 AM.
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 35,996
P
Member
OP Offline
Member
P
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 35,996
TA ... FYI

My H and I have twice been investigated for child abuse.

1. our D told her teacher ( gosh , this was at least 6 years ago ) that her brother had threatened her with a knife. She never told us. The teacher called us to inform us she was obligated to make the report. We were advised that unless we were able to make our daughter safe from her brother, they would remove HER from our home. We got HIM into residential treatment.

2. our son told his therapist of a physical confrontation we'd had with him (all true) and he wanted to report abuse at that time rather than at the time the incident occured ( 2 YEARS earlier, when we were waiting for the police to come to get him to take him to the hospital we sat on him and restrained him and we caused bruses)

so you see.... there can be very confusing and even years old events that require the professional to report.

Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 40
B
Member
Offline
Member
B
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 40
Quote
Certain professions are obligated to report suspected abuse. NOT obligated to observe, not obligated to prove, not obligated to investigate abuse. Only obligated to report


Pep,
According to our therapist, in our state, this applies to suspected cases of child abuse, but not spousal abuse. When I asked her not to report the incident because I was under the impression she might need to, she explained to me she was under no obligation to. I'm sure it would have been a totally different scenario had it been one of our children hit by the door, though. Thank God it wasn't........


W (me) 33 H 35 S10 S8 D 2 1/2 Married 12 years
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 35,996
P
Member
OP Offline
Member
P
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 35,996
Quote
Just wanted to say I didn't post on this thread to debate my or my H's behavior, I just wanted to add some more details to the mix when it comes to why the MC , who, as I said before, counseled us together for almost 3 months before recommending my H see another therapist for IC, suggested I seek a divorce from my H.

[color:"red"] suggested I seek a divorce from my H [/color]

exactly what is being discussed ... how IC can be anti-marriage

This is what Harley said:

[color:"purple"] Your wife's personal counselor is not trying to save your marriage -- she's trying to provide your wife with an escape. [/color]

Last edited by Pepperband; 11/28/05 01:57 PM.
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 35,996
P
Member
OP Offline
Member
P
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 35,996
... and maybe you do need that escape ... but the POINT is ... individual counselors are not trying to save the marriage .... many times this is true, and it is true in this case as well.

Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 35,996
P
Member
OP Offline
Member
P
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 35,996
Here's a hug for you breakingthread

http://mail.google.com/mail/?view=a...mp;attid=0.2&th=107d7fdd105de060

..... my cousin sent me this today, so I am passing it along to YOU! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Page 2 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Fordude 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Forum Search
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 179 guests, and 54 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
Raja Singh, Loyalfighter81, Everlasting Love, Harry Smith, Brutalll
71,958 Registered Users
Latest Posts
Lack of sex - anyway to fix it?
by Nightflyer90 - 03/23/25 08:14 PM
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics133,621
Posts2,323,490
Members71,959
Most Online3,185
Jan 27th, 2020
Building Marriages That Last A Lifetime
Copyright © 2025, Marriage Builders, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Site Navigation
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5