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How many of you have seen the Johny Cash movie?
I have never really read about his life....I have always liked his music....my father is a big country music fan and I ended up seeing Johny Cash life in the early 90s in CA, don't really remember if his wife was with him.... Anyway, I was quite surprised by his story.....
I have read a bit of HN/HN and the post by Lem on admiration....and watching the movie I could not help but think that his first wife was not there for him as he struggled......that is how it came of to me from the movie anyway.....I guess she was dealing with the kids and house and saw him as having all the fun on the road, but I got the feeling like he missed her and his kids and did miss a normal life and wanted her there for him but she felt she deserved more from him etc.....so I got the feeling they really did not understand what the other needed.......and then here was this other woman who saw him every day and did understand the life he lived and in some way was meeting some need of his........
I still had this feeling (as far as the way it was portrait in the movie) that Cash would not have fallen for the other woman that easily if he and his first wife were closer....they just were not that close.....
Anyway, I liked the movie a lot......I just could not help but think as I was watching it that they were drifting away from each other......made me think of H and me.....
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Hi daisy, No I have not seen the movie, I will stay away from relationship movies now. There is this movie called derailed or something. I just read the bio and I got very upset. I will now watch comedies and shoot em up type of movies. Have you seen big fish?. I also listen to classical music (I have always). I did like the song ¨what’s in it for me¨ from Amy until WW said the words to me WHAT'S IN IT FOR WW. I did explain about the future but I did not know about the A then.
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Yeah well, sorry. In my opinion being out on the road, hanging out with the guys, drinking, doing speed, being up on stage and treated like a star would be much more fun than being stuck at home with 2-3 kids and no spouse around. I think he kind of left wife #1 high and dry with all the domestic responsibilities while he went out on the road and partied. And as the movie showed, he has not against having ONS while on the road.
I know he had a lot of issues, BUT. I don't see how that type of marriage could work anyhow. Neither was getting what they needed from the other. Maybe they could have made it if they did not have kids and she could travel with him.
I didn't know that Johnny was June's 3rd husband.
They portrayed June very warmly in the movie. She rebuffed his advances while she was married, and even after she was D'ed but he was still married. The movie never really said whether she finally gave in to him before or after he was D'ed. but since the movie portrayed her as not giving in until he asked her to marry him, I would assume he was D'ed at the time.
They seemed to have a good devoted marriage after that. Probably in a large part because both were performers and were on the road together in the same lifestyle.
But I still like Johnny's music. He was a great American musician.
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My elderly mother saw I Walk The Line and loved it. She, a contemporary of John Cash's (age wise, at least) thought it was quite good. She probably empathized with his 1st wife. During that same time period, she stayed home with 4 boys while my dad was a long distance truck driver.
Wanna see a romantic movie with no bad language, no nudity and no adultery? Go see Yours, Mine and Ours. I'm not the biggest fan of Renee Russo but Dennis Quaid is nice eye candy. I took DD to it because it was PG and was prepared to fall asleep. However, I really enjoyed it. I was pleasantly surprised.
p.s. The actors actually look their ages. Like they'e actually had real lives and have wrinkles. Alas, Ms Russo has no celluite and her choice of formal dresses are a bit inappropriate.
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elspeth....
Thanks for the article....I guess we will not really know the truth of his whole story.....I was jut going based on the movie alone.....If I was to take it as completely fictional I would say that they did a good job showing how easy it was for him to get into an affair, it was almost natural (NOT right by any means!) but watching it unfold I could not help but think of the case Harley has in his book HN/HN right at the begining where he shows how an affair comes into existence....that is all I was trying to get at.....seemed in line with what I have read here....I don't think their needs were met and so from the movie alone we know that Cash looked elsewhere..(his wife might have as well who knows)......for all we know he could have continued on with ONS after marrying Carter...we don't know....
I still really don't think a life on the road is that glomorous....I would not want to live like that.....it might be fun for a short period of time...but not for years...
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I saw the movie with my H. To me it was terrible. It was almost like they were celebrating this A. I cried during it and my H noticed and pulled me tight. He asked if I wanted to leave, I did want to, but it was almost over. The whole movie was about this A. I never really liked Johnny Cash and now I REALLY don't like him. Maybe it was just hollywood, but there were triggers everywhere. This one was really bad for me. Just my 2 cents.
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Michele, I am sorry the movie cost you so much pain. It was not my intention to somehow make it sound glorious what he was doing......I am sorry!
I have been doing a lot of reflecting and reading HN/HN and thinking about my role in the demise of my M. I guess I have come full circle back to looking at myself and how I have not met my H's needs, mostly I was not there for him as he struggled to make his dreams and his carrier moves come true....so watching the movie made me cry for that reason as I saw his wife was not meeting that need and he in turn was not meeting his (as my H was not meeting mine).....I do not condone his Affair nor do I think they had some great love story....I set in the theater and really felt bad for his wife....I wondered if J. Cash was really that clueless when he was posting her pictures in the house that his wife mostly lived in! I really could not believe him! My point was very different.....just that I saw myself in his wife to some degree and I felt so much that I was not there for my H.....that is what the movie did for me....made my role of the breakdown of our M more vivid to me......
I like his music, always will....this story does not change that for me.......I hope at some point he did at least have some feeling of guilt for what he put his first wife through....
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White Daisy, You did absolutely nothing wrong. I think Hollywood made the A look glamorous, as always. The movie just didn't show him with any guilt of what he did to his 1st wife. It was like she was not part of his life. I could imagine that the only EN he met of hers was financial support, and that hit home. The similarity between their sitch and ours bothered me. My H spent ALL of his spare time fishing with OW. He would take alot of pictures of her and sent many to magazines. 2 of them made the cover. Anyway, it really was the similarity that triggered me. I can usually watch shows with infidelity in them and not blink an eye, but this one I couldn't dismiss.
So WD, you did nothing wrong. In a way it was good to watch it with my H. He could see my feelings without me having to say a word.
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