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Hi dorry <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.

I don't know if you know about Alberta divorce laws but I thought I'd ask. Ok, so I know that I have to be seperated for 1 year before I can divorce.

I want to understand this a little more. If I wanted a divorce really bad ( I don't ). And there was no adultury, or abuse, so I have to wait out this one year. I live apart from my H since May 8th, 2005. Could I file for divorce in March or April to start the process so that I could be divorced in May?

I wonder if you can file before the one year mark, start all the paperwork and negotiations, and then wait for the one year (have everything ready) and be divorced in May?

Do you have any ideas?

I guess I wonder if H could start the process now or not?

Thanks! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Hope you are doing well. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Yep you have to wait it out.

The only way you can get it before is if you can establish you were seperated before May 8th...or if you can show adultry or abuse.

BUT you can start the process before hand so that come may it can go into play immediately. You may have to legalize the seperation first.

Do you have a lawyer? If you do and you are okay with this divorce then go ahead and start the paperwork. It will make it so you can divorce in may and not have to wait - unless he is not agreeing on everything.

And if you don't want to - yes - your H could definately start the process now...although he can't legally sign the papers and serve you until May.


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Also wanted to add Daisy...

If he does date someone else meanwhile - if your speration has not been legalized on paper...it is considered adultry on paper...so if you dated someone else - he could legally speed up the divorce...or vice versa.


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dorry!

Thank you!

Oh, no, I am not in any hurry about this D. I am not ready to do anything, not even ready to contact a lawyer! I still don't want one.

I will not go out of my way not to give him a D, but I will not start the process unless I am good and ready.

I guess I wondered if H did begin anything, if I would find out about it before May. It sounds like he cannot serve me till May, so I'll know nothing about what he is doing till then (well, unless I ask him).

I really have this feeling that he will not do anything about it, but I want to be prepaired in case he does.

Thanks!

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He can serve you with a legal seperation before then though...I am not sure what the status here is between a seperation and legal seperation...'

Decided to look it up..

lol

http://canada.justice.gc.ca/en/dept/pub/divorce/separation.html

What is the difference between separation and divorce?

A separation occurs when one or both spouses decide to live apart with the intention of not living together again. Once you are separated, you may need to deal with your spouse in relation to issues concerning any children you have, such as custody and child support, and you may also need to work out issues dealing with spousal support and property. You can resolve these issues in different ways:

* You can negotiate a separation agreement. A separation agreement is a legal document signed by both spouses which details the arrangements you have agreed on. In some jurisdictions, independent legal advice is required to make the document legally binding.
* You can make an application to the court to set up custody, support and property arrangements under the laws in the province or territory.
* You can come to an informal agreement with your spouse. However, if one party decides not to honour the agreement, you will have no legal protection.

To legally end your marriage, you need a divorce, which is an order signed by a judge under the federal law called the Divorce Act.

Do I need a reason to get a divorce?

To get a divorce, you will have to show that your marriage has broken down. The law says marriage breakdown has occurred if:

* you and your spouse have lived separate and apart for one year with the idea that your marriage is over; or
* your spouse has committed adultery (had sexual intercourse with someone else) and you have not forgiven your spouse; or
* your spouse has been physically or mentally cruel to you, making it unbearable to continue living together. Cruelty may include acts of physical violence and those causing severe mental anguish.

You can get a divorce if one of these situations applies to you.

Over 80 percent of divorces in Canada are based on one-year separation.

Do I have to prove that my spouse is responsible for our marriage breakdown?

Under the Divorce Act, you do not need to prove that your spouse was at fault in order to get a divorce. If the reason you are asking for a divorce is marriage breakdown, shown by one year of living apart, either of you can request a divorce. It does not matter which one of you decided to leave. In fact, the law gives you the choice of applying to the court together to ask for a divorce.

However, if the reason you are asking for a divorce is marriage breakdown because of adultery or mental or physical cruelty, you will have to have proof of what happened.

How do I start a divorce application?

1. It is always advisable when starting a divorce application to speak to a lawyer knowledgeable about family law. A lawyer can tell you exactly how the law applies to your situation and how to protect your rights. You can then decide what to do.
To start a divorce application, you fill out the appropriate forms for your province or territory. If you have a lawyer, he or she will fill out the forms for you and will be responsible for processing the divorce. You may obtain forms at government bookstores, some private bookstores and, in some cases, via the Internet. In some jurisdictions, court offices and family law information centres provide forms.
2. There are a few things in particular that you have to include in the forms. If there is a child of the marriage, you need to write down the parenting arrangements, including financial support. If these arrangements are in dispute, you will need to describe the arrangements that you are seeking.
3. Once you have completed all the forms, you file them at the courthouse, pay the required court fees, and follow the court rules and procedures for your province or territory.


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me FWW - EA/PA fall of 2004
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Dorry,
Thanks for all that info.

I did mean to add earlier that I am not dating, nor do I plan to date. I am not ready. But more importantly, I am still married and find the idea that I would date while still married (even if it is on paper only) disturbing. I think the idea that people would accept that it is ok to date when you are married because, well you are seperated kind of disturbing (IMHO).

My BIL (H's brother) asked H if he was seeing anyone. This was in Nov. I was kind of surprised. What are these people thinking. That after 6 months of seperation and really only 2 adn 1/2 months after stopping to work on it, dating is reasonable? I find it odd.

I don't know if H is dating. I know that he is always looking for people to talk to. I went back to check some old phone records and there are calls to his ex-girlfriends. I did not know this at the time. He likes conversations with people, meeting people and is always looking to connect with people.

I did find out that he met some girl over Christmas while in CA and send her some CDs with music. They had a 'connection'. Now, how serious or not this is I don't know and I guess I'll never know. Fact is that it seems to me that he has no problem looking for other women to connect with. I don't really care anymore. I see now that this is always an issue with him. One year into our marriage he was contacting old girl friends (not GF) and saying that he always looked to have conversations since that was lucking in his life. This is his habit, looking elsewhere.

I tell you that I would not file Adultury if I found out he just started seeing someone. Why? Because the reason for the break down of the marriage is that he has left. Whether he starts seeing someone now, after 8 months does not change that. We really have a relationship on paper only. This however does not change the fact that if he did start dating someone, I would think very lowly of him. He could at least wait till D to start dating.

However, I am not putting it past him. It would not surprise me at all at this point. The emails to his ex-GF really confirmed to me that he is trying to diminish the meaning of our R yet alone M. He also is always looking for those great conversations with people that he just meets and gets easily excited about it. The fact is that a real relationship is about more than that first excitement that comes with meeting someone. However, it is needed to start a R, so this connection with this girl in CA could be the beginning of a R.

I ended up writing way more than I intended to......


Thanks again dorry....

Daisy


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If you ever wanted to stall it...it sounds like for 2 1/2 months you guys were trying to reconcile. Those 2 1/2 months could be a period of time in which the separation was not done with the "intent that the marriage was over". If you want to delay it further then if and when you ever correspond on the subject you refer to the separation as beginning in July or Aug when attempts at marital reconciliation ended. You could even stretch that out to say September/October if you want and let him argue otherwise.

Of course, by then you may want out yourself and this could backfire on you and be used by him to delay proceedings.

Good Luck,
Mr. Wondering


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Mr. Wondering.

Thank you for your reply. I know that I could potentially go all the way to the beg of Dec. because although he said he did not want to go to MC and wanted just a friendship (this was at the end of Aug), we did see each other and were intimate and I could argue that I was giving him space to figure things out and it was not until the beginning of Dec. that we had a conversation where he made it clear that we were over, that he did not want to be married again, etc.

But, what would be the purpose of straching it out? If he wants it, he can have it. I want to walk away with dignity here. At this point I am not ready to file, but by May/June I may be. I am just thinking ahead to know what the rules and regulations are, so I am prepaired, for whatever happens.

Best....

Daisy


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Daisy,

This thread gave me a bit of a happy day with my H...

I mentioned to him - in case he was still checking up on me, not to get scared that i visited sites for Divorce in Alberta...that i was helping a friend on MB who also lives here...

He said in a joking manner - have I been that mellow lately? Then smiled and laughed - I don't worry about things likes that anymore - I know where we stand.

let me tell you - 13 months after D-day just something as simple as that was music to my heart and did wonders for me <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Thanks!


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That souds great dorry.

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Dorry (aka Deeplysorry)
me FWW - EA/PA fall of 2004
FWH EA/PA late spring 2005
Got our acts together July 2005 and started recovery.

The Recovery Guide for WW's (Wayward Wives)
Dorry's Story

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