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Okay, Got everything moved into my apartment today.....Well it's all here....NOTHING is put away yet.
 So my apartment is a mass of boxes and bags that I just don't have the energy to go through tonight.
 
 The kids seem to be taking it pretty well, I left the plan B letter on the fridge along with the house key, and I made sure that the house was spotless after I moved my stuff out, so he'd have nothing to complain about in that department.
 
 He has DD10's cell number and that is the only number that he has to get ahold of us, and she'll be the only one answering it.
 
 He called me about 6pm...(Which he generally does to see what's going on....etc) I talked to him like normal, told him I just picked the kids up (Which is true, Mom watched them while I moved) and that I was getting ready to go *home* so that I could let the dogs out. (Which I did, but it was also to give the house a once over, to make sure I didn't forget anything and to leave the PBL and the key).
 
 After that I came back to my new apartment and I turned off the ringer on my cell phone.
 
 I got a little choked up saying goodbye to the dogs and cat, I really will miss them a lot.
 
 But for the moment I am feeling very strong and okay about this.
 
 First thing this morning I prayed to the lord to give me the strength to give this all over to him.  I always feel so much better after I've prayed.
 
 I left a bible and the emotional needs questionnaire on the bed purposely.  I'm sure he'll think I left it behind, but I left it for him......you never know, he just may read it.
 
 I am waiting for the fireworks.......because they are forthcoming.
 
 I told DD11 (She turned 11 in October, and I keep calling her DD10..lol) that she could tell her Daddy anything she wanted to.  I am not making her lie, if he asks where we moved she can tell him, she can answer any question she feels like answering.  I am not going to put her in the middle of this....not this time.
 
 I know that he'll call her cell as soon as he gets home and finds us gone, and the first thing he'll say to her is "LET ME TALK TO YOUR MOM!!!!" and I will then take the phone and walk away and simply hang it up.  I am sure he'll try multiple times, and if this happens I am going to tell him that it is inappropriate to put her in the middle, that I instructed him how he could contact me, and that if he asked her again, that I will be turning the phone off for the evening.
 
 That all sound okay????
 
 I have a feeling it's going to be a rough night.
 
 -Caren
 
 Always Look For Grace Given, Even in the midst of Grace Denied.
 
 BS-Me 39
 WH-37
 Together 15 years
 Married 12 years
 7 kids total, His: SD20, SS18, Twin SS's 16.
 Mine: DD22, DD15
 Ours: DD12
 Affair began Fall 04, Separated Fall 04,2 Failed Plan B attempts, False recovery of sorts Spring 05.......Still pluggin' away.
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 me:37 BS; s:7; 
xh:38; OW:26;eloped w/OW 1 wk after D: 12/29/03. OC born 3/17/04. Happy! Blessed to be the mother of a wonderful son..great profession..Life's good!
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Thanks Peachy....they're appreciated.
 God Bless,
 
 -Caren
 
 Always Look For Grace Given, Even in the midst of Grace Denied.
 
 BS-Me 39
 WH-37
 Together 15 years
 Married 12 years
 7 kids total, His: SD20, SS18, Twin SS's 16.
 Mine: DD22, DD15
 Ours: DD12
 Affair began Fall 04, Separated Fall 04,2 Failed Plan B attempts, False recovery of sorts Spring 05.......Still pluggin' away.
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You've got a lot more courage than I ever thought about having and I've been out for two years!!!!!  Just can't muster the courage to end it.
 I'll be praying for you tonight.
 
 God Bless you and keep you safe.
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Your prayers are all appreciated.
 Whelp, call number one on my cell phone.....I didn't answer.
 
 Here we go!
 
 -Caren
 
 Always Look For Grace Given, Even in the midst of Grace Denied.
 
 BS-Me 39
 WH-37
 Together 15 years
 Married 12 years
 7 kids total, His: SD20, SS18, Twin SS's 16.
 Mine: DD22, DD15
 Ours: DD12
 Affair began Fall 04, Separated Fall 04,2 Failed Plan B attempts, False recovery of sorts Spring 05.......Still pluggin' away.
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Caren,
 No. Do not answer. If you must converse about him putting DD in the middle, then do so thru the approved route that you outlined in the PBL. If you talk to him, it will be just like your Plan B before and he will have a chance to undermine you.
 
 Plan B is for u. You are going into withdrawal also. Which means, any interaction with him will send you back to zero. Do not do that! Protect yourself from that. After a week or two, it will settle down. After a month, you wont want him near you because you will be feeling so much better.
 
 Good luck. You are doing this for you. So, rely on God. Let your husband deal with the consequences.
 
 And we will see how it all comes out.
 
 In His arms.
 
Standing in His Presence
 FBS (me) (48) FWW (41) Married April 1993... 4 kids (19(B), 17(G), 14(B), 4(B)) Blessed by God more than I deserve"If Jesus is your co-pilot...you need to change seats!" Link: The Roles of Husbands and Wives |  |  |  
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The fireworks have begun.  He has called her 4 times, and wanted to speak with me, I have simply hung up the phone.
 He is asking where we live, etc.....she told him the street, but he said he's on his way, and I'd better have the police here.
 
 Here we go again,
 
 -Caren
 
 Always Look For Grace Given, Even in the midst of Grace Denied.
 
 BS-Me 39
 WH-37
 Together 15 years
 Married 12 years
 7 kids total, His: SD20, SS18, Twin SS's 16.
 Mine: DD22, DD15
 Ours: DD12
 Affair began Fall 04, Separated Fall 04,2 Failed Plan B attempts, False recovery of sorts Spring 05.......Still pluggin' away.
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He has the Plan B letter. No need to talk to him at all.
 I think it is better to do a dark Plan B, than to let this drag on and on and on.
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Also, TY for the advice.....Mum is the word.
 Hmmmmm for someone that wanted me to move out so badly, he sure is reacting strangely.
 
 Guess the old adage, Be careful what you wish for applies here, eh?
 
 -Caren
 
 Always Look For Grace Given, Even in the midst of Grace Denied.
 
 BS-Me 39
 WH-37
 Together 15 years
 Married 12 years
 7 kids total, His: SD20, SS18, Twin SS's 16.
 Mine: DD22, DD15
 Ours: DD12
 Affair began Fall 04, Separated Fall 04,2 Failed Plan B attempts, False recovery of sorts Spring 05.......Still pluggin' away.
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Oh, Caren - hugs to you!  Be strong.  You can do this.  Please keep us informed here about what's going on!!
 Prayers are with you!
 
 Kim
 
 D-Day May 14th, 2005
 Married 16 Years
 DS age 8
 6 months Plan A
 Plan B 10-11-05, H moved back in June 2007, Very False Recovery.
 2nd Day-Day 7/7/08  Kicked WH Out.
 Plan B for my sanity
 "Enjoy the little things, for one day you may look back and realize they were the big things."  Robert Brault
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DD11 is VERY upset that I won't talk to WH......and apparently he's on his way here....although I doubt that.
 That's okay, he can come and stand outside and make a fool of himself, but he's not getting in here, and he's not seeing me.
 
 Hopefully the approved method's of communication outlined in the letter will sink in.
 
 -Caren
 
 Always Look For Grace Given, Even in the midst of Grace Denied.
 
 BS-Me 39
 WH-37
 Together 15 years
 Married 12 years
 7 kids total, His: SD20, SS18, Twin SS's 16.
 Mine: DD22, DD15
 Ours: DD12
 Affair began Fall 04, Separated Fall 04,2 Failed Plan B attempts, False recovery of sorts Spring 05.......Still pluggin' away.
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Good luck Caren...
 We're here for you...
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Caren... he thinks this is just another flurry of drama (how many attempts is this?).  Please do everything possible to make it anything but.
 GC
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I am removing myself from the drama.....this is attempt number 3, in numbers 1 and 2 I think I actually enjoyed the drama....this time, it's just getting old.
 I'm not talking to him, he can rant and rave all he wants, I fully expected this to happen.
 
 I'm fine.  Calm, cool, collected.
 
 I will update you on the events as they unfold.
 
 Oh, and you'll be SO PROUD of me, I didn't even ask DD11 what her Dad said.  I don't CARE what he said!!!! (And if you know me, you know that's a MAJOR accomplishment).
 
 -Caren
 
 Always Look For Grace Given, Even in the midst of Grace Denied.
 
 BS-Me 39
 WH-37
 Together 15 years
 Married 12 years
 7 kids total, His: SD20, SS18, Twin SS's 16.
 Mine: DD22, DD15
 Ours: DD12
 Affair began Fall 04, Separated Fall 04,2 Failed Plan B attempts, False recovery of sorts Spring 05.......Still pluggin' away.
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OMG - Good luck Caren!!!  Stay strong for you and your DD...You are an inspiration!!!
 
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Oh, PS....I did hear her listing everyone that helped me move......He's working on the *Boyfriend theory*......also typical WH stuff.
 -Caren
 
 Always Look For Grace Given, Even in the midst of Grace Denied.
 
 BS-Me 39
 WH-37
 Together 15 years
 Married 12 years
 7 kids total, His: SD20, SS18, Twin SS's 16.
 Mine: DD22, DD15
 Ours: DD12
 Affair began Fall 04, Separated Fall 04,2 Failed Plan B attempts, False recovery of sorts Spring 05.......Still pluggin' away.
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TY, I appreciate it....you guys helped me so much in the past, I wouldn't be this strong if it weren't for all the wonderful people at MB <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
 -Caren
 
 Always Look For Grace Given, Even in the midst of Grace Denied.
 
 BS-Me 39
 WH-37
 Together 15 years
 Married 12 years
 7 kids total, His: SD20, SS18, Twin SS's 16.
 Mine: DD22, DD15
 Ours: DD12
 Affair began Fall 04, Separated Fall 04,2 Failed Plan B attempts, False recovery of sorts Spring 05.......Still pluggin' away.
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he sure is reacting strangely.You knew that was coming... you told us that! Stay strong, Caren... you're doing the right thing! |  |  |  
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Good luck Caren.
 I'm with everyone else on the stick rule that he doesn't communicate with you, no matter how much he explodes.  You have an intermediary adult that can relay information between you two setup?
 
 Hope it works out for you.
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No, no one that he'll speak to, he has been instructed, that if he needs to get a hold of me about DD11 or any other matter he can leave a message on my voice mail or text message me.  
 If the voice mail is about anything other than our daughter or some financial matter....I will not return the text/voice mail.
 
 I actually think since we have the same mobile phone carrier that I can call my own voice mail, and say that I have the wrong mail box and leave a message in his....I'm not sure, but I think I can do that.
 
 In the event that I can't do that, I will hang up if he answers.....voice mail only, and only about parental or business matters.
 
 -Caren
 
 Always Look For Grace Given, Even in the midst of Grace Denied.
 
 BS-Me 39
 WH-37
 Together 15 years
 Married 12 years
 7 kids total, His: SD20, SS18, Twin SS's 16.
 Mine: DD22, DD15
 Ours: DD12
 Affair began Fall 04, Separated Fall 04,2 Failed Plan B attempts, False recovery of sorts Spring 05.......Still pluggin' away.
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