I'm sorry that's all you see here or choose to read.

I see some real miracles take place, unmatched kindness and compassion, some sound advice and suggestions, and sometimes just a willing shoulder and a warm hug.

I see women and men that come in here devestated and broken, wondering how they can possibly make it through another day...........and, eventually, wean themselves away standing tall, feeling proud of themselves, knowing they have a future with or without their spouse.

This is due to the strong supportive MB members that continue to help those still struggling. Those that realize there is not a one-size-fits-all solution for any of us. That we are all dealing with the same basic problem but with different spouses, various circumstances, a variety of OP's and the added dilemma of the OC. There is no perfect timetable for recovery and yes, it usually does take "years".

Sometimes you only see what you are looking for!

Just being the devil's advocate here, but could it be that, just perhaps, what they have done leaves little room for improvement?