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<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> I was raped on 9/11/2002 while out walking to meet my husband at his job because he had been coming home late and I thought he was having an A this guy came up behind me and grabbed me and beat me up and kidnapped me and rapped me after he did this he told me the reason he did it was because my husband had been screwing his GF. So after that I got the police and I had them go to my house to find my husband but they could not find him nowhere. So after the hospital and all they took me back to the place it had happened and all then they took me home. My husband could not understand what the police told him and the only thing he could say to me was that you don't looked like you got raped. And later that day he went to work leaving me home alone and he did not return until 6 the next morning and he got off at 12am. Now after all this time the guy was caught and locked up having raped 4 other women and trial starts 2/20/2006 now my husband is hiding from me he won't really talk to me I think he is having another A with women he has met online and meets them at the store down the street from the house I cry all the time now because the dreams from the rape are back and he just acts like nothing is going on with me. I think he feels bad but doesn't know how to talk to me my question is how do you make a blind man see?
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I'm sorry to hear that this happened to you. I hope you have gotten some counseling for the rape. Of course you will be having some flash-backs and bad feelings with the trial coming up. Thank God that this animal got caught and will have to pay for his offenses.
It sounds like your husband may be a serial cheater. Unless he gets some help, he may continue down that path.
Has he always been this cold to you? You've been going through this for a long time.
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This all has been falling from the rape and maybe right before it but he was always there before all of this
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If it were me, I would take a break from the marriage stuff and prepare for facing the trial. Do you have to testify?
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Yes I do and I as not ready to face all of this see I have blamed my husband and have held so much hate and anger towards him from this thing it burns me up the police know this and the distric attonet on the case knows as well but my husband lied about knowing the guy I over heard him talking to some one about the guy
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Okay, try to call a rape hotline group. They are experts with this type of thing.
I understand you being angry with your husband. I would be too. However, the man that did this is a rapist. There is no reason, or excuse for what he did. He probably hates women and wants to control them. His actions are his fault and no one elses.
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No I think this guy knew him really the guy knew where I was going to. I didn't know the guy at all the police think he was following me like the rest of the women he marked us for his own reason. I believe that I really do yes there are some problems the guy has but really now knowing his family history and his record history this guy is dangerous he has killed women besides raping them. We moved out of that state and live some where else now
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Even though your husband knew him, he did not cause the guy to rape women. This is a very sick man. It was unfortunate that you crossed paths with this monster. I hope he goes to jail and stays there.
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they want to give him 40.6 to 50years I hope he takes it then I won't have to go and face him again
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I hope you won't have to face him, but it might also be good. He did a terrible thing to you and the others. He deserves to be accused by his victims.
Is your husband supportive at all?
I hope you will get some counseling. Being raped does terrible things to a woman. But you can come to understand that it was not your fault, your husband's fault, but soley lies on the shoulders of the perpetrator.
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No he is not being anything he won't talk to me or stay in the same room with me and sex ha he has stopped that as well. I get nothing from him it is like he is not here but is if you know what I mean. He won't look at me if I start talking he walks out of the room and turns something on loud reaaly loud so he can't hear me or changes the subject in the middle of me talking I can't take it I need to do something sleep is no good eatting is making me sick work is my only outlet because I am a customer service manager and smile all day whether false or not other people don't see my pain I cry all day at home and he walks around like he sees nothing.How can he just do this when I need him? how can he not see I see he is hurt or something but as a man he runs and crawl in his cave and that is ok right I don't know one here and my family I should say is nothing they don't want to hear it and his family said the whole thing was my fault in the first place.
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Ladychevy, You must take care of YOU first and foremost! I will not go into my story right off the bat here, but I do know what flashbacks can do to you. You are not alone. You did not deserve what that animal did to you. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
Your husbands reactions are not unusual for a spouse of a victim of rape. Saying that does not make you feel better I am sure. You need to understand that it does not make it right either. His reactions were wrong and hurtful.
I cannot say for his cheating at this point. But would rather that you begin to heal you and not your marriage at this point. Let me tell you these things about the way a spouse may react to thier spouses rape:
First they may internalize it all. Meaning how it affects them, not you but them. Sounds cruel, but that is what it is. Just like a BS feels about thier WS sleeping with another person. No you didnt chose to do this, but the inocence is lost forever.
Second: They let you down in the role of protection. He was not there to protect you. His behavior, in his mind, may have led to your being raped. He failed, that is hard to handle. He let you down in his mind.
Third: They truely do not know what to do or to say. They are angry too. They want to fix it, but there is no way to. They want to comfort but do not know how. And sometimes the thought of saying the wrong thing keeps them away. They would rather say nothing, then something hurtful or cruel.
Fourth: You are surely different in your behaviors, coping, actions, demeanor, personae, etc. This one act has changed you for the rest of your life and his too. This is hard to swallow for anyone. You cope differently with life now I am sure. Your outlook on life may be different. Your marriage skills may have taken a back seat for now...which it should. You are a different person than you were pre-rape.
What your husband said was cruel and hurtful. He should have known better. And I am truely sorry for what he said to you. I bet he might like to take those words back to this day. And if he was having an A while you were raped, then his guilt must be two fold or more. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Dealing with flashbacks is agonizing for you, it must take it toll on you each and everyday. The horror of it happening over and over can devastate even a saint. I am sure that you have developed alot of the typical behaviors that a rape or abuse victim has: 1. Disassociation- During the rape or abuse, you probably were able to separate yourself from the act happening to you. Afterwards, when in a room full of people or when in bed with your husband, you are able to repeat that. You can literally separate yourself into 2 different people, stare at the ceiling, or pick a spot on a wall, or even go to a good place, and still allow an act to happen. 2. Low self esteem- feeling like you are not worthy of love or friendship. 3. Minimizing- you learned probably this right from him with his statement to you. Like someone who has been raped looks that way. But you probably internalized what he said, and may have even made it sound less than what it was. A vicious crime. 4. Compartmentalize- to store those awful memories somewhere deep in the brain so you do not have to deal with it all the time. 5. Closed mouthed- you try not to talk about it. In todays society we even on this board are told to expose, expose, expose. But when sexually abused or raped, it is almost taboo to even bring it up. Why? No clue from me, but it happens, and the more you keep it to yourself and not deal with it, the more it poisons your brain. 6. Self blaming- no details needed here. But some feelings may be, I deserved it, I got what I asked for being out late at night, I enjoyed it, etc. All not true, but we do that. 7. Lack of Empathy- you may have ignored your own pains from this whole thing, not surprising then if you cannot empathize with others fully. 8. Lack of trust- no surprise with this. 9. Distorted views of self and others. You may view yourself as "dirty", "unclean" etc and may see others in a different light now. I am no expert by any stretch of the imagination. I live with this everyday and will for my entire life. I wanted to give you a little understanding of what is "normal" for you. I found this information over the many years I have had to self destruct and rebuild.
I read a book, I think it is called the "The Healing Journey" written by 2 women, that had a chapter for for spouses. It clearly stated, that the healing journey is something that the victim must do, with or without the spouse. It is an extremely volatile time, big ups and downs. WHen you get to a low, you are way down. You may vascilate between the 2 in a matter of minutes. Real rollercoaster ride. Many spouses are not ready for this, they have not been given the tools or knowledge to do so. The book advises them, if they do not feel up to it, they can and should just walk away. This time will be about you and only you. They are better to walk than to interfere with your healing. The way you typed, in the disassociated way I know well, leads me to believe that you have alot of pain and alot of surpressed emotions and hurting inside you. It sickens me to think that people hurt this much. I see you hurting, and I am validating you. I came here in rough shape too. I was hurting after my WH A was exposed, and all the years of violent abuse, rape, and physical abuse from my past came down on me ontop of his A. I was in utter shambles. So low, that to type to these wonderful people here was nothing to me. I was nothing, I hated myself and life. I felt that I deserved what he did to me, this was all that I was good for, my fault, what my purpose was. To live in h*ll for all times. Unclean, dirty, worthless, sl*t, scum, all of it, I felt that. I was a failure, couldnt even keep my husband happy, just nothing. Take a look at my screenname...it says it all of how I felt that those days. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> So like I said earlier, you are special, you are worth more than anything or anyone right now. You will have a heck of a road ahead for yourself, with the trial, the flashbacks. You will have to focus all of your time and attention on you. You need to seek immediate counseling. If your counselor now (if you have one) isnt doing anything for you, get another and another until you find one that does. There are alot of ones that just dont do rape and abuse well. DO NOT stop with one, keep trying others. Regardless, I will be here for you as will all these wonderful people on MB. ((((((((((((((((Ladychevy))))))))))))))))))) ps...sorry the post is soo long and may trigger alot of people, I am sorry but this is so important for you and others like who who may not be able to even post these things just yet. JE
D-day 5-18-05 35 BS (me) 52 WH 17 DS 15 DD 14 DDs twins Currently in R. "God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference" The Serenity Prayer
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I also would like for you to read this too: I copied it from SI and CW is an amazing person who wrote this and it can also be applied to the rape and not just betrayal : OK here is the info that I copied from SI:
Today, you may have woken up dulled to your day, weepy and lonely. Today, you may be scared and fretful, afraid of new hurts and unsure of your future.
Today, your sense of self may be eroded, and you question your worth and value as a person, spouse or parent.
Today, you may be hurting - the vicious and vile agony of betrayal filling your chest with scorching fire, curling you into a ball of fitful tears.
Today, you may be lost and sad as you mechanically go about your day unable to savor even the largest of joys.
Today, you may not eat, sleep, shower or do the simplest of self-maintenance tasks, lacking the will or energy to barely move and feel that nothing you do will actually matter.
Today, you may look at your loved betrayer and they may smile for you, hold you, comfort you, talk to you and spout apologies with every breath, yet their efforts are hollow and meaningless.
Today, you may rage as the injustice and horror burn you and you see your loved one as an inhuman, uncaring monster and lash out in the desire for revenge or to protect yourself with distance or just because the enormous pressure gives you no other way for release.
Today, your state of being may be minimized as the ignorant and the selfish shove your feelings aside out of mistake or malice.
These are the possibilities for today, but they pale in the face of the realities...
Right now, you are reading the work of 1000's of people who have graced these pages with their hearts and minds.
Right now, those same 1000's truly understand you and what you are going through because they are, have been, or perhaps even will be, experiencing the same as you and many have gotten through it already and you are not far behind them.
Right now, you are not alone in your grief, anger, misery and doubt - we are with you, even if just in text. We are real flesh and blood and bone and hearts and souls and we are with you.
Right now, though broken, your heart beats and you live.
Right now, you are worth more than you are experiencing - you did not deserve this, nor ask for it.
Right now, you have control of what you do and the wisdom of 1000's to guide you if you but supply the will.
Right now, you are loved - by me, by 1000's of fellow members, by your family and friends, by the Creator, and are worthy of that love.
Right now, you have power. You can love or not love, forgive in time or not forgive at all, trust in time or not trust - regardless of what your betrayer does, has done or will do, that power is yours alone.
Right now, your emotions are just the way you feel - they do not define all of you and as they have changed in the past, they will change again in the future.
Right now, while you live, can think and make choices, and have the will and desire, you have hope.
Today, you *will* fight. You will not go down so easily and succumb to despair, hopelessness and fear.
Today, you *will* fight. No matter how deep the sand or big the hill, you *will* keep going. There is no "can't", only "will" or "won't", and you *will*.
Today, you will be strong and I, and the 1000's of others, are behind you and we will not falter nor will you.
Today, you can live again - so get to it.
-CW
D-day 5-18-05 35 BS (me) 52 WH 17 DS 15 DD 14 DDs twins Currently in R. "God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference" The Serenity Prayer
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Wow, justempty, helpful post.
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Thank you sooo much I needed to hear just what you said and no onee on here could have said it better. My you be blessed It hit every point to the tee I am so dumb because after the thing I was more worried about him than me and I listen with out streched ears for him to say something he really thought I had cheated on him and that the police were covering it up until he found out there were other women as well. Thank you again
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Believer, It hurts more than you know to write, but hopefully it will help even a little. JE
D-day 5-18-05 35 BS (me) 52 WH 17 DS 15 DD 14 DDs twins Currently in R. "God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference" The Serenity Prayer
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The 2 of you I owe more than a THANK YOU ! while he sits in the room watching T.V. and laughing I am here getting good advice ha ha I emailed some of this to him will he read it I think not but I try anyway he needs to get some help to deal as well and all of this makes matter worst when you live together before we both make bigger mistakes
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LC- "Thank you sooo much I needed to hear just what you said and no onee on here could have said it better. My you be blessed It hit every point to the tee I am so dumb because after the thing I was more worried about him than me and I listen with out streched ears for him to say something he really thought I had cheated on him and that the police were covering it up until he found out there were other women as well. Thank you again "
I want to tell you that you are a brave and wonderful person. I know what it takes to write those words. Hold on to who you are and be strong. I will be here for you. JE
D-day 5-18-05 35 BS (me) 52 WH 17 DS 15 DD 14 DDs twins Currently in R. "God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference" The Serenity Prayer
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Thnk you I don't know how I made it but I did so one more thing why now after all of these years is bothering like it just happened again? Is it because of the case coming up?
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Probably and thinking about your husband betraying you sure doesnt help a whole lot either. I have to go to my kids concert, but will be back on tomorrow am.... Keep stong and keep posting. Bye.. JE
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