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Heroswife –

As my daughter would say…”my bad.” I learned a valuable lesson. I should have listened to H when he wanted to explain, but because of his history of making excuses which included lies I refused. Shame on me!

We finally spoke last night – he hadn’t called all day so I called him @ work. He explained that he had planned on telling me when he got home from working the 36 hour shift Monday night, because he wanted to tell me in person rather than over the phone and in a serious manner, so that I’d know he had remembered and was taking my request seriously.

His plan would have worked just fine and would have been greatly appreciated if he hadn’t worked the EXTRA OT. But naturally when I didn’t hear from him all day and so much time had passed (30 hours) I couldn’t help but freak. I told him I appreciate what he had wanted to do and I apologized for not giving him the opportunity to explain. I think he understands why I behaved the way I did and we both learned from this experience.

On an altogether different subject, in an attempt to determine MY reasons for staying & working on the marriage I did some soul searching last night and realized that although he hurt me beyond belief, I still love him deeply. How that’s possible I don’t quite understand, but it’s true. Not only that, but I’m still drawn to him after all these years, although I’ve never been quite able to figure out why. Sure, he’s hot, but it’s more than that. I wasn’t physically attracted to him when we first met; I just thought he was a nice guy and liked him immediately. The physical attraction came later, probably as love bank balances grew.

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I hope I'm giving you some hope. I promise I wouldn't be able to tell you these things if I didn't believe them myself.


You give me hope when I have none. You’re helping so much more than you probably realize. It is so helpful to discuss these issues with someone who not only understands because they’ve been there, but someone who has gotten past the worst of it, someone for whom MB has worked.

As for making of list of things that make me feel good or better, that’s a tough one, because when I’m as low as I can go there is nothing that really helps, well, almost nothing. My cats can be very entertaining and are sometimes able to make me smile when nothing else and no one else can. But when I’m sad & depressed I lose interest in everything I normally enjoy doing including working out, lap swimming, walking, reading, knitting & scrapbooking. Speaking of ‘scrappin’ I never completed our wedding album and if I hadn’t been diverted I would have chucked everything during one of my fits of rage. It’s still difficult to know he was carrying on with OW/XW even then, and the knowledge taints everything we’ve ever done together because she was always there in his mind and heart. But to get back to the subject of my feel-good-list, sometimes I have to force myself to get out of the house, like I did Monday. I did it, but didn’t enjoy it. I suppose I’ll have to keep looking for things that make me feel better about me.

Since I’m already venting you might as well get a look @ the whole picture ‘cause when it rains, it pours, right? Other stressful but unrelated issues including having to contact my XH via my attorney because he neglected to pay his share of our daughters college tuition and she was on the verge of being cut off (dorm key-card, meal card, penman-cash card, etc.) He kept SAYING he had the money & was GOING to pay but when the attorney’s letter arrived that threatened lawsuit if payment to the university wasn’t made by a specific deadline, his SISTER over-nighted payment to the school, meaning he DIDN’T have the money. I have three more years of this to look forward to.

And finally, I go for a 2nd opinion on Monday regarding the possibility of having a hysterectomy. The bright side is that I’ll be out of work for six weeks. The not-so-bright-side is that H is concerned about finances with my pay being reduced to 2/3 while I’m on short term disability. Of course, he refuses to reduce his astronomical payroll deductions to his retirement accounts, so I simply refuse to worry about it. He makes more than enough to make up the difference but chooses to have us live week to week even now with my full pay. We often run out of money before the next paycheck because of the amount he socks away every paycheck. We’ve spoken on this subject once recently, when I learned just how much of his paycheck is diverted to two retirement accounts, but nothing has been changed and the subject is not yet closed. My surgery may force him to make changes. Time will tell.

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Anngellica -

Your H will have to retrain himself to not make excuses all the time. Just like you'll have to retrain yourself to avoid negative reactions during this part of your recovery.

If he doesn't do what you expect you have to give him a chance to recognize his mistake and make it right. If the behavior continues then you have every right to show anger. For now we don't want to rock the boat...right. Keeping peace while reinforcing what you need will work better for you in the end.


As for my suggestion on making a list of things that make you feel better and then focus on them... THROW THAT IDEA OUT THE WINDOW!!! I am sadly learning on a thread I started in Recovery that I must have developed OCD during this phase of my recovery. I made that list and I focused so hard on that list that it's become part of what makes me feel safe.

Bare with me...I'm just learning this about myself. I used these self-imposed vices to make myself feel in control...and somehow I guess I'm convinced that if I stop these activities that my H won't love me anymore. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Ok, so I'm overboard with analyzing my OCD....bottom line it...I realize now that it's not healthy and you shouldn't do it either. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />


As for reasons to stay.....Loving your H is an excellent reason to stay. You do love him....for all the right reasons and you've proven that by staying beside him through this terrible event.

I'm glad I'm helping. I know so many people here helped me when I was in trouble.

I like to scrapbook too but I haven't done it in years. I get overwhelmed thinking about getting started again...like...where do I start?


Good luck at your Dr.'s appt. I hope all works out for you. My H and I put away lots of our income in our retirement accounts but I think we over do it because of the situaiton our parents are in. Neither set have saved a dime...and they are suffering for it now.

Do you guys not come together and make financial decisions? I keep the finances in our house...it's very stressful. In the last week or so I've gone to my H and said I wanted him to be involved. I still do all the bills and work but I wanted him to see on a daily basis what the balances are so he makes wisers decisions. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Don't get me started. I'll pop!!!!!!


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Your H will have to retrain himself to not make excuses all the time. Just like you'll have to retrain yourself to avoid negative reactions during this part of your recovery.


Remember how you told your H to hold you no matter what? I thought I might tell my H that when he has something important to tell me that I don't want to hear, that's not an excuse and is in my best interest to hear it, to be firm, but not mean, about it, and make me listen. Having requested this of him, I will be more likely try to be/stay calm and listen to what he has to say, which will probably do us both good.

"OCD" is not in my cheat-sheet list of acronyms...? If we're not to indulge in self-pampering what ARE we supposed to do to feel better?

My H used to do the bills and after 10 years of single-parenthood I was quite willing to be free of certain responsibilities, that being one of them. However, he'd do bills, tell me we're broke so I'd know to be extra careful, and then suggest we go out to dinner! After months of this I went bonkers & decided we should do the bills/finances together. As a result of our very differnt styles what started out as a joint venture ended up with me doing the bills b/c of H's computer illiteracy & my preference to use Quicken & online Bill Pay. I'd rather NOT do it, but being able to print unlimited financial reports makes tax time soooo much easier. Plus, it's nice to be able to see exactly where our money goes by a few clicks of the mouse button. H likes to grocery shop, making several "small" purchases each week. A quick report showed him just how "little" he was spending, which was quite a lot more than he realized.


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You do love him....for all the right reasons and you've proven that by staying beside him through this terrible event.


To be honest, the reasons I didn't leave immediately included the fact that I really had no place to go. There is not room in our current financial status for additional expenditures since our income goes towards living expenses and little else. Also, I didn't want to make any permanent, life altering decisions in my crazed emotional state. I couldn't see past the pain of betrayal & knew that I was in no shape to make rational decisions that I might later regret. Plus, I had no idea what my rights were, espcially considering we've been married less than four years. My attorney has since educated me regarding the divorce laws & common judicial practices and lets just say I was not happy with the facts. Then of course I had that silly list of reasons to stay that I've previously mentioned, like not wanting to go back to mowing the lawn, taking out the trash and cleaning the litter boxes. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> If MB works for us then those silly reasons were worth their weight in gold.

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OCD - Obsessive Compulsive Disorder...ever what Monk? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

I suggested avoiding developing OCD like vices...it will eventually catch up with you.

Have to run for the day...my H is on his way and the kids have made a mess downstairs since they've been home from school...for all of 2 hours!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

I hope you have a good evening.


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I LOVE Monk! And Poirot, and Miss Marple and my all time favorite, Sherlock Holmes!

H readily acknowledges his OCD so I'm quite familiar with it. I think it may be rubbing off on me.

It's quittin' time, thank goodness, I'm outa here! <G>

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HerosWife,

I made a new post on GQII for you. It says HerosWife here I am - InADaze. I put links to my situation but not getting much feedback. Is there a way to actually recopy an entire topic and move it? Or will I just have to copy and paste my original post and not any of the replies?
Does that make sense?


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InADaze -

I'll go look for it. I can't believe I haven't seen it yet.

not sure how to move an entire post unless you just copy it and paste it in a new post. You would just select the text, hit cntrl C, and then come to a new post and hit cntrl V.

That should do it.

My mom isn't doing well today so I might not be on for much longer today.

Hope you are well.


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Heroswife,

How's your Mom?

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