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But that is anecdotal information that is easily refuted by another anecdote. Alot of people's instincts ARE accurate. Many consider them a gift from God, and I happen to agree. Animals would not survive without them, so it is not hard to accept that he also ingrained mankind with a similar system to aide their ability to reason. People's instincts are quite a bit different from animal's if you'll study a little psychology. And yes, alot of people's instincts are spot on, what would you say? 75%? I have to say at least 30% are way off mark. So with at least 30% being incorrect. I would have to say that indicates that instincts are not always accurate. I don't think anyone ever said they were 100%. However, I would like to see the citation that indicates there is 75% accuracy. Citation please.
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not going to argue, thanks though, it's not really fun with you
The advice given is not that of a professional and may be in conflict with Marriage Builders.
The advice is of high quality however.
I can give best insight when the relationship in question is that of two people and one God.
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not going to argue, thanks though, it's not really fun with you No argument, I would just like to see the citation. Thanks in advance.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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I don't want to argue with you ML, if I give you a number you will promtply find a way to tell me it's wrong and I do not care to continue with that. Good day. Find your own citation.
The advice given is not that of a professional and may be in conflict with Marriage Builders.
The advice is of high quality however.
I can give best insight when the relationship in question is that of two people and one God.
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I don't want to argue with you ML, if I give you a number you will promtply find a way to tell me it's wrong and I do not care to continue with that. Good day. Find your own citation. But I am not arguing with you at all, shadpoo. I am simply asking that you kindly provide the citation you quoted in your post. Thank you in advance. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Hmmmwell... if we're going to talk psychology, it's probably a good time to point out that what we call "gut instinct" and "intuition" is actually our subconscious reading of a million billion little signals that sends a big fat warning in the form of "instinct" or "intuition" to our conscious mind. So no: it isn't comparable with something animals might do. And yes: it's accurate a lot of the time.
I wouldn't want to take much notice of the "gut instinct" and "intuition" of a naturally suspicious, jealous spouse, but the sudden inklings of a spouse who has previously never had cause to have them? I'd bet a kidney on them.
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the sudden inklings of a spouse who has previously never had cause to have them? I'd bet a kidney on them. yes!
The advice given is not that of a professional and may be in conflict with Marriage Builders.
The advice is of high quality however.
I can give best insight when the relationship in question is that of two people and one God.
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How reliable an indicator is intuition?
Mine was bang on.
It ain't the same as solid proof, but it sure helped me prepare emotionally for some of the things that eventually came to light.
my 2 cents.
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Sans objective proof positive contrary, I have learned to listen to that little voice in my head.
No, not that one. The one perched on my neck.
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Lets see....um....
Had a dream where an unknown woman shows me a baby and tells me it's my husband's.
DDay#1 was 3 months following with the confession that he had a 1 month old baby girl.
Had another dream 6 months later that ANOTHER baby was born.
DDay #2 happened just after....the baby born 6 months later.
Little voices? The little voices are my friends........we go out for dinner and drinks periodically.
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I KNEW my H was hiding something. I had a gut instinct, but what really tipped me off on top of it with the secrecy with e-mail (not that he was writing her, but she had written him & he was afraid to open his e-mail in front of me), and was just "guilty", is the only way to explain it. I knew, and he knew that I knew, which is why he eventually confessed. But, it was my gut that first told me to be suspicious.
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One of our counselors said a woman's intuition is usually right in these circumstances. Mine was each time I caught him. Trust yourself.
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RiverTam has a point!
I never ever mistrusted my H. Trusted him completely and made excuses for his actions even though my gut told me "hey, red flags all over the place, when will you ever listen to me!".....but I opted to go on along my mary way, because I did not want to face the fact that my H was a lier, a cheater, a manipulator...I could not possibly be married to this man. My instincs told me that there was more than he was letting me know. He told me he wanted space, freedom to think, blah blah,....now I find out what really was up!
I say, if you trusted completely and now you wonder at the action of your spouse and there is a small part of you that thinks things are not adding up, don't dismiss it. Yes, sure you may be wrong, but you also may be right. So, what is the harm to find out one way or the other. In my case, I finally got to the point where I wanted to know what was going on, too little too late as H was already out of the house and gone and we hardly saw each other, but nevertheless my persistance payed off, found the proof that I needed, it has helped me to make sense of his actions, I found it because it was there to be found......
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My WH told me how scary it was how right on my instincts were like 99% of the time! He said "you always knew" even though he would whole heartedly deny...I knew. Even though many times I have chosen to bury my head in the sand instead of listening to the voice whispering in my ear.
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me: FWW/BS 52 H: FWH/BS 49 DS 30 DD 21 DS 15 OCDS 8
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poo....
Where is the citation? I would love to read the article myself......
I honestly don't understand your motives. I don't know you, so I guess I don't have to understand them, but it appears to me that you are on a sight were people are dealing with such unbelievable pain and you seem to take it all so lightly. That is how your comments come of to me......are you here to just contradict the MB principles? I am here to get support for the pain I am dealing with, and to get a better understanding of why my M failed, and to restore my M if possible.
What is your reason for being here? You don't have to answer, obviously, it is a free country.......
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And, I had never doubted my H's fidelity and he had many female friends and never had an issue with him spending time alone with any of them. I was not a jealous person, I trusted him. Until, something changed...then I knew this "friendship" was different, and I was right.
Tons of red flags all over the place. My only regret is that this time around was that I did not check things out sooner (I had concerns about the A being back on, but also felt like I had less "rights" because I had been a WW too. Figured some of the distance was because of my A. Now, all those red flags added up=he has probably been back in the A for almost a year). I do not buy that all of those flags meant nothing and that he "needed a friend" and contacted her 2 weeks after moving out (as he says).
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Improving.... And, I had never doubted my H's fidelity and he had many female friends and never had an issue with him spending time alone with any of them. I was not a jealous person, I trusted him. Until, something changed...then I knew this "friendship" was different, and I was right. I could have written this! I trusted H completely. I believed every single word he told me "I am not seeing someone, it would complicate things"...after I found a hairclip in his bedroom......I told my mom yesterday, H will never find someone as gullible as me. Daisy
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Improving.... And, I had never doubted my H's fidelity and he had many female friends and never had an issue with him spending time alone with any of them. I was not a jealous person, I trusted him. Until, something changed...then I knew this "friendship" was different, and I was right. I could have written this! I trusted H completely. I believed every single word he told me "I am not seeing someone, it would complicate things"...after I found a hairclip in his bedroom......I told my mom yesterday, H will never find someone as gullible as me. Daisy Here, here. I was the same way. I trusted my H as if he were the Lord himself! He was in Iraq, assuring me that he loved me & would never hurt me "like that". That he did not want that drama in his life & that he wanted to come home from Iraq void of guilt from doing something stupid. When I ask him now whey he told me all of those things, he says, "What was I supposed to say, Yes I had sex with another female soldier, and she lives right accross from me in a tent on the other side of the sidewalk." He told me I probably would've shot myself worrying about him doing it again, so he had to tell me what he told me to keep me sane. He did confess when he got home, so I guess I understand his motives, but I never fathomed my H EVER having an affair over there. I just assumed he missed me enough not to do that to me. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> I guess when it happens, most of us are flabberghasted. Sad, but true.
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Isn't there an oft-reported statistic on the internet that when it comes to an intuition of adultery, men are right about 50% of the time and women 70%?
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I don't know too much about your situation, but could the computer secretness be related to porn. Maybe he knows/thinks you won't approve and doesn't want you to know he's viewing. I know I hide things sometimes, like being on this site, because I am trying to avoid conflict.
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