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......to save your marriage.

Here is my story: Dday 02/16/06. The A with MOM started 2 years ago and WW is just telling me know. It was both PA (3 times, at the beginning) and EA. When she told me i asked her to leave. She did so for 3 nights. In that time my WW cell phone bills. It turns out she talked with him every day for 4 months and has had phone contact with him up until last December.

The A was kept secret all this time but the MOM wasn't. I knew she was meeting with him. They were taking a self-employment program together. She was helping him with his work. He even came over and helped put in a storage cabinet at our house!

I told myself when I got married that this was a commitment that I would not break with infidelity on my part. If I felt that way I would work it out or leave the marriage. I also told myself I would never accept it, for whatever reason. I never in a million year believed it would happen. We were supposed to be soulmates, even though we had our intimacy problems that we, obviously, failed to improve upon.

We have a 4 year old and a 6 year old. We already had plans in the works to move to another city.

Since dday we have had mnay discussions and I believe I have a FWW that is truly sorry for being so selfish and stupid. She wants more than anything to work things out.

Any advice? She admits to having a need to have her EN met by men, even before we met (older brother molested her a couple of times when kids; Dad didn't pay much attnetion to her). What approach should she/we take?

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JJD, welcome to Marriagebuilders.com again. I'm going to duplicate my post on your thread in the "Just Found Out" forum below so everyone will have all the stuff you've received so far. That way, folks can tweak things I've said, and offer more tips as you tell us more information, okay?

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You've suffered the worst shock a marriage partner can absorb and you have my, and everyone else's, complete sympathy. We are here to help. In fact, MB exists only to help you get your marriage back on track. With a remorseful wayward wife who is willing to work on the marriage, you are advanced beyond what many people are when they come here. You have a huge advantage they do not.

Please take a moment to order the book Surviving An Affair by Dr. Willard Harley so you can get in-depth knowledge about the things you need to do to repair your marriage. Second, you and your wife need to know more about friends of the opposite sex outside the marriage. That subject is covered very well in Not "Just Friends" by Shirley P. Glass, Ph.D. Both books are often available on Half.com for much less than retail cost. I suggest you order both and expedite delivery.

Now...the most important thing you can do immediately is to calm yourself. It isn’t going to be easy. Nothing worthwhile ever WILL be easy. What has happened shouldn’t have, but it has. You are angry, lost, and "hurt" doesn’t even begin to describe the pain you’re feeling. We know that. However, staying mad isn’t going to solve anything. Here is a link to Plan A on this website.

http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi8113_ab.html

If you do nothing else for the next few days, look at the discussion on Angry Outbursts, Disrespect, and Demands in that link. They are in a section dedicated to instances where the betrayed spouse is trying to separate a wayward spouse from the other person BUT they are rules for a successful recovery also. Please read them and share them with your wife too. It sounds to me like she could especially stand to know what Disrespectful Judgments are. Both of you need to find out what “Love Busters” are and how to stay away from them. Please look at these things as soon as you can. You and your wife can’t solve any problems if you’re yelling at each other, crying, becoming increasingly resentful toward each other, etc.

I suspect you’re pretty disoriented right about now. You probably have been operating on adrenalin and nerves and don’t have much of a clue what to do next. You need to know what to do and how to set up a plan to make recovery possible and Surviving An Affair will help show you how to do that.

While you wait for it to arrive, you will be well served by reading all the articles by Dr. Harley on this website. Start with the “Most Popular Links” on the right side of the webpage. One link will lead you to others and will prepare you for what you’ll read in more detail in Dr. Harley’s book. The link I gave you just above about Plan A is one of the articles you’ll run into in the most popular links.

You have said you are seeking couple’s counseling. I applaud you for that. Please “shop around” for a PRO-MARRIAGE counselor and find one that has considerable experience in getting couples back together. Counselors come in all grades of competence. Please get yourself a good one.

Finally, you need to start a thread in the “General Questions II” forum on this website. There are a lot of experienced folks over there who have gone through what you are going through now, but they do not come here to “Just Found Out” that often. You need more folks brainstorming on things you can do to save your marriage.

Friend, you have lots to do in order to get your marriage back where it should be, but you’ve taken a couple of very important steps by arranging for counseling and coming here to Marriagebuilders.com. Marriages have weathered the tragedy yours has encountered and yours can survive too. You’ll find people here on MB who are here only to help.

In your thread on "Just Found Out," you said your wife has agreed fully to NC and you're certain the affair is over. You ask about Plan B, but that isn't applicable yet--it probably won't be but even if it is, it's a long way down the line so put it out of your mind for now.

You need to be in Plan A. Read up on Plan A on this website but I suggest you do that while you're waiting for Dr. Harley's Surviving An Affair. The whole book goes into far more detail. Get the information on those Love Busters (LB's) down pat and start practicing it on each other. Read about angry outbursts, disrespectful judgments, and making demands of each other. Get them firmly fixed in your mind and make a point of using that knowledge in the way you treat each other while you wait on the book. Spend as much one on one time as you can in this period. It's not easy with kids, but you guys fell in love spending time with each other and "it" is still there. When the book arrives, read it, and understand it. Set up your Plan A and work on your marriage.

Don't hesitate to ask questions and use your anonymity out here to be completely open, okay? My thoughts are with you tonight. Stay strong.

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Justjilted, on the Recovered thread of Believer's you asked why bother. A lot of us told you why you should. I hope you read the posts.

Now as to advice. It came from all different directions.

From our marriage counsellor. She told me to grow up and stop having an adult/child relationship with my husband. She said a marriage needed two adults in it.

From MB. Anything I read on the main MB site. I printed every article and read them and read them and read them.

From JL. And anything Just Learning said was taken to my heart. JL doesn't really give advice he makes you look at things. Thank you again, JL. Anyone who has the pleasure and privilege of having JL looking out for them knows what I'm talking about.

From other FWWs. The FWWs on this board.

The BEST advice was NC. It is essential, it is non-negotiable and IT WORKS.

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I also said quite a bit about ENs on my post on Believer's thread.

Patting myself on the back here, I think I explained them quite well.

I'm so pleased you're "bothering" JustJ, you have small children and there a LOT of success stories on this board. They get hidden sometimes but they are here.

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Justjilteddad,

Welcome to these boards although I’m sorry you need to be here. You have found the right place for help and advice and your M can be saved.

You and your W will find all the advice and guidelines you will need on how to recover your M on the following threads (just click on the links):

For you:

Plan A and Plan B
(plan B is not applicable on your situation - you need to be in plan A)

WAT's Quick Start Guidelines for Betrayed Spouses

Bob's Newly Betrayed Spouse MB Toolkit
(Bob is a BS and his story is one of the success stories around here.)

For your W:

A Recovery Guide for Wayward Wives
(Dorry is a FWW and compiled the above thread, but she was a BS as well. Her story is also one of the success stories around here.)

Your W need to read all the links on the above thread.

For both you and your W:

What the WS/BS Must Do to Reconcile

If your W experiencing withdrawal from OM, both of you will find this thread on withdrawal useful.

Hope this will help.
Suzet

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I don't know how to describe how amazing it is to have you all as my pillars of strength. You, this forum, and this website - don't know where I'd be without you <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Your suggestions are invaluable.

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You two just keep working on being with each other, JJD. And keep us updated with what happens, okay?


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