Trai-Piojitos....Its kind of silly of you to generalize and think that all FWWs are going to "slip" and do what Kiwi did. There are some recovered couples here that are doing fine for years with no contact ever again. KiwiJ is one woman and Gemela is another one. Also there are some "recovered alcoholics" that never touch alcohol again!! But of course there are other ones that are weaker and get tempted time and time again. Everyone is different, believe that. Otherwise there is no point on you continuing trying to recover your marriage.

Even if you are not following all MB principals here, you are getting benefit from posting and reading different situations. While you are doing that your marriage, hopefully, will be getting better. Dont get discourage in your recovery, because it will just get you down and angry.
How is Gemela doing lately?

Myrta

I hope you two will stick around. It is a big struggle, but worth going through. I didn't recover my marriage, and am very happy. I will NEVER go back to the way I was.

OK T, you are doing it again. Of course I'm right about not unerstanding or do you want to argue with me that when I say I don't understand I mean I don't understand?

And you didn't answer any question... What do YOU get from POSTING?

posting is different from practicing MB principles.

FYI I don't think you did MB plans correctly and I have suggested insistantly that you review SAA and the info on the web page, but you have ignored that request.
I have also recommended that according to MB plans, after plan A comes plan B. But you have also ignored that.

So in short, you are not IMHO following MB rinciples, nor ever have, and you ignore all suggestions to do so. You don't seem to be INTERESTED in following MB principles, you have your own way of dealing with the problem of infidelity.

The question remains: What do you get out of posting here?
You don't have to answer me, just answer yourself if you want to, or your mother who reads here if she's interested.

Good Luck! I hope it works for you and that you find happiness and mainly PEACE.

I believe in the MB principles and plans, I believe that I will survive infidelity as a better person because of MB and whatever relationships I have in the futur will be based on MB principles. I believe they are based on sound psychological study of human relationships and the practice of love.
I am sure I will find peace.

I hope you and Gemela find your peace too.

I'm sorry we could not help you.

What I got out of posting? I believe I got relief from the depression. I believe it was good to get my thoughts on cyber-paper. I believe it was good to just be able to tell anyone how I was feeling.

But cc46 is quite right. I am not welcome here and don't belong here. I am going to try to face my depression and see if I can deal with it. Thank you so much to all who have helped get me through the last few months. I have needed and appreciated that help more than you will ever know. I also hope that I have been able to help a few others with their pain based on my experience.

believer - live to ride / ride to live. And remember - helmets are unsafe and loud pipes save lives!

Myrta - I don't know what you see in Stanley (just kidding). I think you are both very lucky.

And Bigger, wherever you are, don't get your nose bent out of joint. Sorry - couldn't resist - pun intended.

And ToddAC, you know where to find me.

Thanks everyone.

I don't see why you dont belong here nor why you're not welcome here.

I thank you for your support and words. You helped, more then you can imagine.

Hope you will stick around... after all some of us feel for you during this 74 pages.

We do hope you get what you deserve.

I will uptade my post... but you missunderstood some, sorry I am not a good writter, about him and kids... all he said was what he developed during the 2 years of affairs (I know it still very bad and hurtfull), at least that's the only explanation for the good dedicated and proud father he was for 6 years before all this mess. Time will tell.

T,

nobody said you weren't welcome. Everyone is welcome.

Do you belong here? That depends on you.
You are twisting the words to suit yourself.

I honestly believe that I personally have not been able to help you. That's just MY OPINION.

Why does that imply that you are not welcome? or that you don't belong?

piojos----LOL <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> THATS CUTE!!Your comment about Stanley and I.

Anyways, I think you should continue posting. I think you have changed and improved so much since you started posting here. YOu understand where Gemela is coming from in regards of the affair. I think you had followed some of the advice in regards to AD, behaviour with Gemela,etc. You have more patience with her. YOu know more or less what to expect for now.

Continue posting because I think its very benefficial to you and your situation. Your marriage is not doing so bad if you compare yourself to others here.

Myrta