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#1617780 03/22/06 06:26 PM
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hi me and my wife have been married 18 years and have 2 children 6and8...i came home from work a few weeks ago and she told me she is seeing another man..she said i have not filled her emotional needs and would like to seperate at this time..this blew me away a few months ago we were laughing having a good time so i thought and booking a vacation together,,we will be vacationing next week with the kids and it feels very awkward...i am in shock and pain the marriage has not been perfect and we both suffered through our own addictions ,,we just bought a beautiful home and i thought we were doing well....please help

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Welcome to marriagebuilders. It is a great place to be under the circumstances. The starting point for you is Plan A. Please read all about it. It means trying to show her what a great husband you could be, and avoiding disrespectful judgments and angry outbursts.

It also includes exposure of the affair. Find out who the other man is and expose to his wife, if he has one, work, if it is a work affair, family and friends.

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no wife for other... my wife wants me out next month.

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Do not go. It is much harder to save your marriage if you leave.

You need to get your hands on "surviving an affair" and read it cover to cover. Before your trip, read all the articles here and print off the Emotional Needs Questions.

It is not too late to save your marriage it will take some effort, but keep posting here and we'll give you all the help we can.

Do you know who the other man is?

You will read about Plan A. Find the post on here called the carrot and the stick of plan A. Part of A is exposure. Find the thread on here about exposure. I believe WAT or Worthatry started a new one about itjust last week.

Do not give up. It is time to fight for your marriage.

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no wife for other... my wife wants me out next month.

Tell her no. If she wants to seperate, she should be the one to move. If you want to save your marriage, you must stay there. Many courts view it as ABANDONMENT if you leave your family. If you move out, she will be free to carry on her affair from the comforts of YOUR HOME in front of your children. Unless you want this OM in your home taking your place, I would suggest NOT moving.

Please read as much as you can about Marriage Builders, especially Plan A. You should be in Plan A now, doing your best to ruin her affair. Your only hope of saving your marriage is to ruin her affair.

Read below:

The Carrot and the Stick of Plan A by Pepperband

The carrot of Plan A


Meeting your wandering spouse's emotional needs.

Making "home" a warm and inviting place to be.

Placing emphasis on what has worked in the marriage.

Showing consistent self improvement in areas where previously lacking.

Stop lovebusting behaviors.

Communicating with a calm reassuring voice and relaxed body language, even in the center of a verbal storm created by the infidel.

Becoming the person any reasonable spouse would want to come home to.

Remaining open to the possibility of recovery.

Offering forgiveness and understanding.



The stick of Plan A


Exposing adultery where it matters most. Exposure that takes the form of a swift and sudden unexpected tsunami of truth.

Not appologizing for exposure or speaking the truth in a kind yet direct way.

Directly communicating the hurt and devastation that the affair has caused.

Not accepting blame for the infidel's choice to become adulterous.

Let the consequences of adultery and infidelity fall freely upon the heads of the adulterous.

Establishing boundaries that disallow the affair to effect children of the marriage, financal security of the marriage, and otherwise ruin innocent bystanders.

Standing up to infidelity as a beast that must be slayed for the good of the family.


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

Exposure 101


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mruggi, here is a link that explains Plan A. http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi8113_ab.html

Here is another about infidelity: http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi5525_qa.html

The MUST HAVE BOOK: Surviving an Affair: http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi6070_sa.html


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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she says the mediator that were seeing next month will give me a letter stating its not abandoment......

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the other man is single no kids i dont know him why?

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Don't leave your home. If she has a lover, let her leave.

How old are your children?

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Do you know his name?

Do they work together?

You must expose to everyone that will have infulence that can help you break up the affair.

If they work together that means at work.

Can you locate his parents, siblings, etc? Since there is no wife, those would be other good exposure targets.

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my children are 6 and 8 she says if i dont leave she will leave and take them with her..i dont want to screw up the kids...

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my children are 6 and 8 she says if i dont leave she will leave and take them with her..i dont want to screw up the kids...

If she tries to take the kids from their home, you tell her NO. Those are your kids too, remember? What will screw up your kids is their father leaving and another man coming in and taking their place. What will screw them up is having their family destroyed. It is up to you to protect your kids. The WORSE THING you could do is leave. You have to have some balls about this, mruggi, your marriage and your family is under assault it is up to YOU to protect it. If she tries to take the kids, contact a lawyer and put a stop to it.

Your wife is hoping to scare you into leaving so she carry on her affair freely. She is not counting on you standing up to her. So stand up to her and she will have second thoughts about busting up her family for her sleazy affair.


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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she says the mediator that were seeing next month will give me a letter stating its not abandoment......

Thats nice, then SHE can leave without the kids instead of you.


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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she says she wont bring him into the house were going to sell it and move on

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she says she wont bring him into the house were going to sell it and move on

You are kidding me, right? For what possible reason would you leave your home even if this were true? [and its NOT TRUE]


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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mruggi,

Listen to what Mel is telling you!!!! It's GREAT advise.

I'm not sure if you read the things I posted in your other thread but realize: Your wife is NOT thinking "clearly & logically!"

She WANTS it HER way and that is what counts for her right now!!!
She's trying to "scare you" just to get what she thinks is right for her.
This is "typical" WS behaviour!!

She doesn't have a true clue about what she will do if you don't react the way she wants you to.

Even if you don't believe it, you are the STRONG one in your marriage now and it is up to you to react with a "clear & logical" mind. It is up to you to keep your children safe!!!

If she wants to be with OM, then she will have to leave the house without the children! As Mel said: They are YOUR children too!!!

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Mruggi,

You receive great advice you from Melody and Blondblossom - please listen to them!! Don't let yourself be manipulated by your W and give in to her selfish demands.

You need to be strong and not allow yourself to be overwhelmed by fear - especially at this stage. You CAN do this mruggi! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Please read the following thread: [i]“Being effective and operating from strength”[/i] to give you some motivation.

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mruggi - these ladies have given you terrific, consistent advice. Notice that there's NO disagreement here. I predict there won't be on this point from anybody here.

I'm a guy, so if you need to here it from a guy too, count me in.

DO NOT LEAVE YOUR HOME!

Now, since that's settled <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> you need to get hot understandig the dynamics of affairs. First up is recognition that affairs are just symptoms of marriage disease. The disease is very likely due to both partners not taking care of the marriage - not meeting the needs of their spouses.

So, please take a long look at yourself and your marital history and identify what things you may not have been doing to prevent marriage disease. We have to concentrate on you because we probably won't get the chance to ask your wife the same question - not anytime soon, anyway.

Once you identify these things - no matter how great or how small they might be - start correcting them.

All the while, DO NOT argue with your wife, do not try to control her, do not have angry outbursts, do not make disrespectful judgements.

Read around this site and absorb all the information about the love bank and emotional needs.

Read also the links in my sig line below.

Ask questions.

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im trying to give her space maybe she will come out of the fog....were leaving for turks and caicos saturday which was scheduled before all this ****** happen....i dont know im still hopeful things will change even though she says she found mr right and shes knows what shes doin

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A sure fire cure available in T&C is conch fritters.

Guaranteed - that and giving her space will cure infidelity.

NOT!

Don't buy the "giving her space" crap. It's crap.

YOU get hot on what I suggested above. Go out today and buy "His Needs/Her Needs". I ususally see it in bookstores - since you may not have time to get one via on-line before Saturday. Take it to T&C. If she wants to see what you're reading, let her. But don't force it on her.

Also, find the Emotional Needs questionaire on this site. Figure out what needs of hers you haven't been meeting. Fix it, pronto.

WAT

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