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How?
How do you keep breathing when your heart is being torn out of your chest by the one who promised to love you forever?
How do you stop the tears?
How is it that one minute I am composed and able to contemplate what lies ahead, and the next minute, I'm remembering my WW telling me she won't stop seeing her new friend?
How does she look herself in the mirror?
How does she imagine that what she's doing is okay for a parent?
How does she not care that she's showing our kids it's okay to toss a marriage out the window when you're not happy anymore?
How can she do this?
How can I keep breathing?
BS (me - 32)
WW - Crystal43 (34)
D-Day - June '05
3 DDs
NC - w/ OM #1, could be; w/ newest-OM, who knows
New OM. Same MO
She moved out 3/15/06 ("Beware the Ides of March!")
"This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. And if we know that he hears us —whatever we ask— we know that we have what we asked of him."
1 John 5:14-15 (NIV)
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I hear you and couldn't agree with you more....there were times when I would just crawl into bed in a ball then there were days when I was fine.....How can she do this to you??? Good question....I think it has to do with the fact the she is only thinking about herself not you and how you feel...its all about her....trust me she might think she is happy but she isn't....and I promise you even if the two of them end up together it will end....they will not last.....I use to think that my live in boyfriend of 6 years was as happy as could be when he left in reality he was a mess....crying all the time calling his mother to find out how I was doing....since I wouldn't take any of his calls......Its so hard and I don't have the answers....but I'm hear to listen and give my opinion....hang in there it does get better with time....someone one told me give time time....profound don't you think........
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It's hard....you have to take it one day at a time, One day you will accept everything and try to move on, the next day you won't be able to go to work because you are crying your eyes out. I've asked myself every question you've asked. These lyrics to a song helped me a lot:
There were times when it took all my strength To just get though, yeah, through another day There were so many nights I thought I was gonna die Without you But the tears I cried somehow made me strong, so strong Did you think I couldn't go on Not me, I'm still breathing And this heart of mine is still beating I, I'm not feeling any pain No baby, not me, I'm still breathing This old heart of mine is still beating The tears I cried have dried You are gone and I survived I'm still breathing
Hang in there.
I am the BS - 35
WH - 37
M- 15 yrs
D-Day 8/2005
Hanging on by a thread
"This too shall pass"
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Tested,
You do because you have no choice. You do because you find an inner strength that you never realized you had. You wake up in the morning each day with a greater understanding that there is a pain in your heart that you would have never believed possible yet you are still breathing.
Some here will argue with me on this, but I do not believe that a WS can really understand what we BS have to live with each day.
Thank God that with time, we will heal. I believe that MB Plan A and B will lead you to the best solution. Either your WW will come out of the FOG and your marriage will be saved, or she will not. But the important thing to remember is that eventually, you will stop loving her if she doesn't.
Some of the most powerful, enlightening threads here for me were the ones from BS whose marriages had ended. In many cases, we moved with them thru the process and in the end they came out shining, happy, and contented.
DO everything you can to save your marriage and you will know in the end that you gave it your best. You will then never have to look in the mirror and feel that you gave up too easily.
I, for one, think my marriage will be better than ever in the end. But, I am also confident that my FWH had only one chance with me to forgive infidelity. There is no cardblanche for him to repeat his mistake in the future. If he does, I will turn and walk away from him forever. And I will be fine.
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I am the BW, He is the FWH D-Day: 12/02/03
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TD - I gave up trying to make sense. The alien theory works really well. Your WS is not your W. She has been abducted and is in the fog.
How do you keep going? You look at your beautiful daughters.
There was a marine in boot camp near the end of a long march who said "I can't go on". The drill sergeant simply replied "That's what you think."
So when you think you can't possibly keep going, I say to you "That's what you think".
You will never be tempted/tested beyond what you can bear.
BS 40 (me) FWW 39 D13, D10, S5 Married 12/95; PA ~3/96; EA ~1/10 D-day 2/16/06 (ten year secret) Current status: Newly discovered EA My story (part 1)
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Who,
Very well said. My sentiments exactly.
Thank you.
"Never argue with idiots or WSs, They just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"
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Tested, my only metaphore for you is that you will deal with this like a death. Like death you have no choices in where she takes this. I know my story is a rarity.
My advice is to focus on you! Your pain and despair are not abnormal in any way.
I wish you the best.
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Have you been to your doctor? Are you on antidepressants, and if not, why not? I hate pills. But when I was in the same state you are in, they saved my life and my sanity.
I think you will find that all of us have been where you are. There are things to do - expose, plan a, if necessary, plan b - Most of us have received some kind of counseling or medication. Do what you have to do to survive. Get out of the places that make you unhappy. If you are unhappy at home at night, get your keys and leave. Go where there are other people. Get your daughters. Go happy places with them.
Take yourself by the bootstraps, and lift.
Have you exposed? If not, do it tonight. Take control of this situation instead of letting it happen to you. Do unto others. Be proactive. If you exposed, did you do enough exposure to be effective?
Get busy, bud. Take care of yourself. Go to a gym. Get active, get fit. Right now, though EXPOSE and go to the doctor.
I eat animals.
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TD,
I'll try to give my opinion on some of your questions. If they sound cold, don't take it that way. I feel your pain. I really do. I am also a BS.
Okay first you have 8 questions here (we won't count the first one). <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> They go back and fourth about how can your spouse do this and how can you survive.
While some say all of this is not explainable, I'll give it a shot.
Let's talk your spouse first. I'm going to assume you've read up on this site and you've read HNHN and SAA. The answers are all right there. So, 4 questions, basically about how can she live with herself. Alright, first off to understand this, stop trying to get to the lowest detail. Start with the 10,000 foot view, the general view. Second, try to step back and think of your WS as just a person, not your WS, but just a normal human being. (I know the alien theorey, I'll come back to that)
The MB basics talk about the giver and taker in each person. (I'll caveat with the idea that MB principles apply to a general population. IMHO, they are not going to account correctly for someone with a severe mental illness or severe psychological problem) Assuming your WS does not suffer from this, then in short, your WS taker is in charge now. The taker is responsible for aquire and protect one's on happiness, and the giver is responsible for providing and protecting others happiness. How can she do these things, because her taker says its okay.
If you want to understand that, think back to some point in your life when your taker was in charge. Surely you have done something in your life where you said, this makes me feel good, and I'm going to do it, and I don't care what other people think or feel about it. Now, you maybe saying, okay, I get that her taker is in charge, I get she is trying to acquire and protect her happiness, but why did it have to be an A.
The analogy I'll use is embezzlment. Most companies are astonsihed by employees who embezzle from them. How could they do it? Studies show you that people only need two elements. 1)Opportunity. 2) Ability to rationalize the behavior. Companies know that everyone can develop the ability to rationalize the behavior. That's why the spend billions on controls to eliminate the opportunity.
So, your WS's taker was in charge and gave her the ability to rationalize a whole range of behaviors. It sent her on a quest to acquire happiness however it could be found. She did not set out to have an A. She set out to find happiness. She probably tried many things along the way. Probably tried with you at first, then tried shopping or getting a new hobby or a job. Some people probably try drugs, or alcohol, etc. Subconciosuly, their taker has opened the whole world experiences (good or bad) for them to try in this quest for happiness. One day she met OP and they made her feel happy. The taker is still in charge. Now that the WS has acquired happiness they will protect it.
I'm purposely not placing a judgement on this behavior. IMO, its not "good" behavior, it may be illusory, etc. But it is the way most people go through life. You try things and if you like them you do them again and keep doing them. When people are in balance between their giver and taker, when they are recieving as much happiness as they feel they are giving, they confine themselves to noble activities. But when it gets out of balance, they face the age old fight or flight. They can't live with the imbalance.
When people talk about aliens, I think what they are saying is I've just met a person who's taker is totally in charge. This is very foreign and most likely someone you don't want to be around. (Truthfully, if you met someone's whose giver was totally in charge, they would be just as much an alien. Just a different planet I guess). Its also interesting how the taker seems to be so short term focused, while the giver is long term.
So, now to how you go on. Focus, be patient, better yourself, have a plan. Again, all MB principles. I'd challenge you again to take the 10,000 foot view of things. You and your WS are not that different. You both want happiness. In fact you both probably want happiness for yourselves and each other. The key difference is you believe that you can both reach that goal together, in the M. Right now she does not believe that. That's the difference. Don't take it personnally or as an attack. Its a difference of opinion.
Again, 10,000 foot view, think of your WS as just a person. If you had a difference of opinion with a next door neighbor, you probably wouldn't flip out. You would debate about it. Why do they have that opinion? Explain why you have your opinion. What evidence can I use to support my opinion?
Why does she not believe that her happiness will come from working on the M. Well, she has experimented. In her mind she has proof that she is happier in the A. (or if not in that A, at least in another R, because she can't remeber feeling that happy in the M) Its the best she's felt in years. Now, we all know that it is temporary, it is an illusion, its the newness or the fact that the affair partners have yet to have to deal with the work that comes from a full R. But the taker is in charge. Protect that happiness. Protect it now, worry about tommorrow tommorrow. The taker whispers in their ear, look how much happier I've made you, trust me. The taker blinds them from everything else. (This is IMO, the fog). I'm dramatizing this quite a bit. I would imagine that WS run the gamut of this continuem from full "go with where the taker leads" to some actually probably do this introspection and consider the pros and cons of staying in the M or getting out.
So, what is your plan to provide her the evidence that you and your WS would be happier in the M. What is your plan A? The way you go on is to tell yourself your going to be a better man. You're not sad or afraid. You have someone you care about who has the same goal as you. You just disagree on how to get there. Build your case, show your evidence in actions and words. When you meet her taker, don't let it deter you from your plan. Remember, you are not negotiating with her, your are negotiating with her taker. Show her taker that you are the ultimate source of happiness. Her taker, will eventually lead her away from OP and to you. Focus on your actions.
Anyway, hope none of that sounds too crazy. I'm not trying to trivialize M or say its easy to separate your emotions from things. That's just how I try to keep going on.
Good luck
PS the post abotu seeing a doctor about AD's. Highly agree. This situation is a shock to the system and most people need AD's at least for a while.
Me 43 BH MT 43 WW Married 20 years, No Kids, 2 Difficult Cats D-day July, 2005 4.5 False Recoveries Me - recovered The M - recovered
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