I'm very sorry that you are away from your daughter. I know it must be tough.

Don't regret the exposure, don't regret anything. You stood up for yourself and you exposed the truth. If she wants to be the deceitful liar, then so be it.

Believe it or not, your wife is in her own he!! right now. She is an evil and hateful person, and all her actions are only making her a more pathetic person. One day she will have to look at her own reflection.

Yea, but right now, she has everything she wants...DD, house to herself, gets to talk to OM as much as she wants...she's in her fantasy heaven.

Eventually she will see what her selfishness has done to our DD, maybe...she is sooooo thick headed that she might never see.

She's one of the most selfish greedy people I have ever known.

I'm disgusted.

GF:

Was she served with the LS?

And if so, was Brian named on it?

...I'm still livid for you 2, but I ac2ally think there may be hope even here. It's time for the OM 2 meet all her needs. How long does anyone suppose he'll be willing 2 do that?

-ol' 2long

Yes, we served WW while in the courtroom trying to overturn the BS PO. Yes, OM's name is on it.

Good.

Now let's see how you're doing.

Where are you staying?

Are you okay (considering, of course)?

-ol' 2long

She's pondscum.

PONDSCUM

P O N D S C U M

OK, so what can his half fast attorney do?

I can imagine the judge's logic: default to believing the poor, helpless woman just so my a$$ doesn't get criticized in case she's right. NO WAY am I gonna take a chance and have MY NAME in the paper in case I deny this request and have her stub her toe running from a "crazed" husband - doesn't matter that she's in no real danger - all she has to do is CLAIM to be or imagine to be.

Jo - are your judges elected up there?

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WAT

{{GF}} I am sorry for you and DD.

We really need to get sleepless on here. I wish he was around.

And Appy.

He's up in that neck of the woods, 2.

-ol' 2long

Okay folks. Pearl Harbor has happened. Even with the warning signs, most of the pacific fleet was destroyed because we did not heed the warnings fast enough. Thus is what happened to GF.

GF, this issue is not the exposure or telling your wife to take her affair stuff outside...it is she was looking for ANY excuse she could get to get you otu of the house. If it wasnt that, it would have been something else! This is why we implored you to do intel, to snoop, to get your legal ducks in a row ASAP. Your attorney really let you down here.

Okay...enough said!! No need for any more of this "shoulda-woulda-coulda." Pearl Harbor has happened! Are you ready now to do what it takes???

First off, did you ever order that e-book Mrs. W was talking about? if you read that, it will give you all the necessary tools to win this war. It will also let you knwo that the author of the book lost initial custody to his WW...but he did the things he needed to, and he went into court and got final custody. You sir, are going to have to fight here!

You need to box your wife into a corner. Get her with no room to move. You also need to put yoru attorney on notice...get with it and get thsi stuff done, or you will find another attorney. She failed to move fast enough and cost you dearly.

Let me let you in on a little secret (not really a secret on here). My wife tried to do the same thing. Shoot, I was even arrested and charged with battery. She set up a situation and in that situation, I made a mistake of putting my hands on her (no, I didnt hit her). And while that was going on, she pushed back against me, I pushed back, she fell...and you know the rest of the story! Guess what? I still got custody!!

Custody is not based on this crap! You need to build the case that YOU are the better parent. That YOU have been and will be in your DD's life. That you will provide the type of upbringing that your DD needs.

You see, if you go in just trashing your WW, then you will lose!! It is like politicians who do nothing but trash their opponent. They never offer their own solutions...just trash their opponent's solutions. And guess what? Guys like that rarely win. You MUST give overwhelming evidence why YOU are the best parent to raise your daughter. That book will give you everything you need to do.

Now, did the LS paperwork say that your wife was to move out? if so, then press this hard!! Will this go before the same judge (I hope not!)? The protection order is fine and can be used concureent to the LS order. You see, she can be made to leave the house and you ad DD stay. That would keep you two apart (the protection order) and get her out of the house (the LS order).

Get with your attorney and get thsi moving. Make sure you have documented and continue to document EVERYTHING. make sure you have that digital recorder with you always and ready to turn on when you are talking or near your WW. It is admissable in court if she is lying, in order to prove that she is lying!!

We are here for you. We have seen this before, just as we saw this coming. Many of us have been thru very similar things. This sucks, for sure.

GF, I also implore you to get with your pastor or fellow Christians on here (I am available) in order to make sure you are at Christ's feet. This is an opportunity to make sure yoru relationship with Him is what it should be. And by having the relationship He desires, then you will be following His lead. And ultimately, it is Jesus that sits on the throne...not your wife or that judge. And I am quite certain Jesus will use this for your good...He always does for those that love Him and follow Him.

But it is just Pearl Harbor. It seems to me the Good Guys won in the end, didnt they???

In His arms.

This is EXACTLY why, WAT. The judge will always side temporarily with the woman. he doesnt want to be criticized if this woman ends up dead and he did nothing about it. It is why GF's attorney needed to get on the stick before this could happen.

In His arms.

It sucks, but I think WAT has it right. It stands to reason that the judge wouldn't take chances. Unfortunately, if he rescinds the protection order and something bad does happen....he's got to explain himself. And even though you're a nice guy GF, the judge has no way to know for sure.

I don't think it would have mattered what testimony you gave. He was probably following a procedure. That's one possible explanation for why he didn't listen.

I honestly believe that this is a temporary setback for you....a cooling off period. The dust will settle, and you'll get a new day in court. Your attorney has alot of evidence of wrongdoing on the part of your wife.

By the time you do get back into court, you'll have even more evidence I imagine, because your WW will continue to 'dig a hole'. I can't imagine how wrathful the court will be upon hearing how she's deliberately manipulated the system. She must have claimed to be afraid of you in order to get the protection order. That was a lie, and lying to an officer of the court is perjury last I heard.

On top of that, she's stolen your money. I wonder what happens when you take someone else's FEDERAL money and use it for yourself. Sounds like a problem to me.

I know you're second-guessing yourself. But honestly, I don't think she's doing anything now that she hadn't already PLANNED to do. She managed to get it done at lightning speed. Heck, most of us wouldn't know where to start.

So, I don't think it was about exposure or asking her to take her adultery outside. All she ever had to do was to provoke you and then call the cops. Why else would she wake you up at 1:30 in the morning speaking loudly on the phone with her OM. That sounds deliberate to me.

I think it'll end up biting her on the butt too.

I had so much trouble sleeping last night. This matter troubles me on so many differing levels...as a father, husband, human being and an attorney.

Anyway, I think you should consider amending your legal separation filing and, if you can, requesting immediate, emergency custody of your daughter and to have WW removed from the marital home. She started this game and you can TRY to get your home and daughter back maybe even before this 2 weeks are up. Possibly the restraining order only separates the two of you and argument can be made that you don't mind the separation just the custody and locations need to be switched. I hope your filing for LS was done previous to her filing the RO; thus you would not be stuck with the same callous judge (unsure whether it makes a difference but doesn't sound like you want that judge again).

I think you need her out anyway. You can't protect yourself from false charges in your home when she is there and she's already demonstrate her corruptness to force you out. Protecting DD from this woman is your first priority and I can't believe ANY mother would subject their 5 year old daughter to having the police seemingly forcefully remove a father from their daughter over NOTHING.

Finally, if you don't request it, she may. Placing YOU on the defensive...we've already seen what happens in that instance.

I also wanted to mention again that you must obey the court order if you ever wish to win anything. This advice includes NOT being suckered by your wife to violate the order. Be wary of a setup.

MR. Wondering

p.s.-Don't regret the advice you've gotten here. You've made some monumental mistakes, especially exposing improperly, but that's history. Let's start assisting you with making well thought out decisions. Tell us what you intend to do, discuss it, modify it, etc.

p.p.s. - If there is any more money out there to be had...get it. I never advised about finances because you indicated you didn't even have $175 for Dr. Harley. You could have borrowed the cash funds from yourself and put the money back when your friend reimbursed you. We had you change your direct deposit I believe and that's it. It's a shame she took your GI money. If I were your judge I'd see that you got it back in the end when I awarded alimony and support to you as her RO claim is so obviously bogus, a waste of time, a waste of money. Evidently, all YOUR money. What crap.

p.p.p.s. - Call Dr Harley for professional advice...Please.

Sounds right, Lady that perhaps she was advised to provoke him so she could get him to move out.

Great point Ladyjane;

This whole thing was a setup from the start. She probably does not desire joint or shared custody at all as she wants the freedom to move to Virginia. To get it she needs sole/primary custody and then she can petition to move to Virginai for a professional and personal "opportunity" in the best interests of the family. To allow this the court necessarily must have NO respect for your rights as a father. Prepare to be villinized further.

She can't win unless you try to play nice and fall into her traps. Be strong.

W

If anyone knows how to reach SleeplessNSeattle, I agree that he may be able to help GF here.

If someone knows how to reach Pebbles, I think she may be able to contact Sleepless.

Maybe someone should let her know that THEN she'll have to face me and MM? What active WS would want that? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

WAT

I contacted SIS - he is out of pocket until April 17. I asked him to please visit here and read GF's post.

Regards,

BB

Maybe it's time 2 call attention 2 the fact that she's used her company computer and travel money 2 conduct her A.

Listen to Mr. W. he's ON THE MONEY!

No appeasement for WW. she's out there man.

what I'd add, GF (Mr. W whatdya think bout this?) is A PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR AT THE HOUSE NOW YOU'RE OUT...see if OM is visiting, if any OVERNIGHT VISITS WHILE CHILD ISIN HOME...
her guard may be down....and if a PI can get intell on WW like this...showing she just wnated to have her affair and that it was NOT about gf but all about the affair, then I think this RO can get overturned easily.

I would also get her wires tapped...and get phone records so you can show a clear path and how the affair is ESCALATING...can he get hotel records, credit card info from the vegas trip?

You can....you can also subpoena it.

that should be very enlightening to the court.

GET ON THE BALL GF...YOUR DD IS DEPENDING ON YOU.

IF YOU SNOOZE YOU LOSE.

USE THE CAJONES GOD GAVE YOU AND GO AFTER THIS ALIEN. Once respect has been gained, she may see you differently in the future. Right now, it's all about overturning this RO, getting back in home, and getting DD above all