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Thank you for saying you'd like to do this with me, Sfjaj...

Hey, did you ever notice that your name is difficult to abbreviate? I just casually did it and ended up with an EN abbreviation.

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This exercise is from the book, "Healing The Shame That Binds Us" by John Bradshaw. It is after a lot of important stuff...about shame, being shame based, and changing ourselves.

I was reading this book, promoted by my MC, back in November, 2004. I was stuck in the BS mode of--hurry up and heal myself...and watching every single step my WH/FWH didn't take, didn't work at, wouldn't commit to doing; or did and THEN didn't do.

So, in January, I bring out the book and this "exercise"...we've begun doing communication exercises once a week and he'll do that. Figure...what the heck. Really, I hadn't done this exercise, nor the meditations--I just read the darn book. Well...even in that resenting, wounded and angry spirit, God works...

First, get a piece of paper and a pen, pencil or whatever you like best to use. Now, I'm a typer and my handwriting/printing is a horror. Still, do this manually, be connected from the paper (your truth) to your instrument (writing) to your fingers, hands, arms, heart, and brain. You'll need all of these.

Next, write down the names of all the people you despise, look down on, are angry with.

This was really difficult for me to do. I remember years back having to come up with a villain for a story, one I could hate...and how long it took me to think of her...about two weeks. Guess you can see where I will understand if you have difficulty making this list of names. Many others are more in touch with their feelings than I was...I thought to hate would make me unlovable; to judge someone bad would make me so; so this was tough.

I hit on OW...lol...and ran with it. Came up in ten minutes with 14 names. Whoa. Okay. Get your names ready and let me know.

Don't post these names, of course. I'll ask for you to post other stuff later in the exercise. Would love to know what you think, feel and believe about this exercise as we go along.

Thank you so much, Sfjaj...remembering yesterday makes today sparkle for me.

LA

P.S. I may be butchering Bradshaw here...he is far more eloquent at asking for stuff from you in his books. He's marvelous with communication and being human.

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LA, I'm sorry; I just spotted your thread to me. Thank you! I will try this. I know sometimes I can seem defensive. These past few weeks have been very trying. I know my mess is my own doing, but I hate what I have done to my family. I have this beautiful OC,and my selfishness takes some innocence away from her. thank you for offering me some kindness and seeing something in me that is worth salvaging. Your kindess hit a real nerve tonight. God bless you

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I know most hate me here, but gosh, your reaching out means more than you know. I've been feeling very discouraged, and I saw some of that in habiba, and I guess that's why I feel so strongly that I wanted to reach out to her in some measure of kindness. Please pray for me and my family; i really want to keep doing the right thing

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end the affair. that is the right thing.
maintain no contact. that is the right thing.

have you gotten tested for STDs? that is the right thing.

it will be very hard for you. it will be harder for you H. He is the betrayed one.

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patriot, I did end the A and am in NC

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get tested?

does your H know everything about your A? Does he know the OC is not his?

good for you on the first two. those are the most important and NOTHING can happen until those are solid. Again, good for you.

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Yes, my H does know...during my pregnancy, they did routine STD testing. thank you, I'm just in a really he!!ish space right now

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I understand. you have to get yourself together.

What is it that has you in this he!!ish space?

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the mess I've created; sometimes it seems as if there's no way through it

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welcome to the first month.

here is the best advice I can give you.

STAY AWAY FROM FEELING GUILTY!

remorse, sure. sympathize with the feelings and actions/reactions of your husband to this. But don't do guilt. Guilt is the kind of thing that makes you focus on you in a selfish manner(oh.. poor me... look what I did) This will not help your husband or you.

it is a mess. There is a way though. Many have done it. YOU can too.

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LA, when you have a chance, I'd like to get more advice from you -- what gives you this incredible peace. If I didn't have children, right now, I wouldn't feel like living. I'm at that type of low point. But I want to be a role model for them

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patriot, were you a FWS?

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yes, I am.

I have links in my sig. check them out.

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thank you

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sfjaj...

I think that LA would be a wonderful resource for you...there is something more than special about her...she may very well be the one that can help you through this...

I hope that you will keep trying...keep posting in the more humble way that you did on the other thread...that is your ticket out of your misery...honesty, humbleness, remorse, repentance...then healing...

As moveforward told you...sfjaj, Be Still...

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FBH ~ 50 ~ MrWondering
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Dday ~ 2005 ~ Recovered

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Sfjaj,

Did you get your list made? Let me know. I'm looking forward to it.

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the mess I've created; sometimes it seems as if there's no way through it

(I could cry reading this)

I know. My Wookie said the same thing...but together, you and your husband can get through this.

Would you please email me? It's not a personal thing, I'm not gonna jump on you or anything like that. There is something I want to ask you...and it's something that may help a little.

[email]niosgirl@yahoodotcom[/email]

- Kimmy


I never had to take the Kobayashi Maru test until now. What do you think of my solution?

O'hana means family, and family means nobody gets left behind or forgotten.

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I did get my list made. I noticed you mentioned not posting names...how should I proceed?

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Hey, Sfjaj,

Here I do this and then work and don't post back.

ACK.

I'm on vacation now (since I'm off work until 4/17)...so have at it!

Oh. My turn. You got your list. Okay. Now, next to each name, write out what really makes you angry and reactive to them. Use single words...dishonest, whatever...write them on the same line next to the name. I had to write small.

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And I urge you to email Dealan-de...Kimmy is way ahead of me, a pure spirit and someone who can help you, also.

I'm not dumping you, so don't go there. You'll find many people will speak to your soul at different times, ways and for different reasons. Do your best to be open...it is how God comes in.

"Hey, Sfjaj,

Here I do this and then work and don't post back.

ACK.

I'm on vacation now (since I'm off work until 4/17)...so have at it!

Oh. My turn. You got your list. Okay. Now, next to each name, write out what really makes you angry and reactive to them. Use single words...dishonest, whatever...write them on the same line next to the name. I had to write small.

To your other posts that came when I didn't get to MB...

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"what gives you this incredible peace. If I didn't have children, right now, I wouldn't feel like living. I'm at that type of low point. But I want to be a role model for them" I had children and didn't feel like living. Of course, I didn't feel living many times since I was 8 years old. You are the world to your children. I know you won't consider that selfish act. I have no doubt. I think you learned from selfish acts this last time.

I know I did. Funny how it took that to get me to here. I look at it like a very dark, terrible gift. I've gotten my sharing of bashing from posting that. Took a lot of time and soul searching to believe that. Wasn't a quick fix and I'm not handing it to you as one...just an idea of an idea, 'k?

In healing, it isn't what we think it is going to be...healing feels like bandaids and soft, reassuring kisses where it hurts. Real healing comes from ownership, owning what our choices were and why...

"I know sometimes I can seem defensive." Let's begin here...are you saying you chose to be defensive with other posters, or that they got it wrong? Do you see where your statement tells me you aren't, just appear so?

"These past few weeks have been very trying." Is this true, or have these past few weeks been the most painful time of your life? Almost?

"and my selfishness takes some innocence away from her." Please explain how you can take away anyone's anything. I know you believe this right now, and I may have misunderstood. Your DD's innocence is hers. Your selfishness is yours. Are you saying that your choices clouded what would have been a time of great celebration and fulfillment?

"thank you for offering me some kindness and seeing something in me that is worth salvaging." My goal is to show you the kindness and preciousness in you, that remains. Nothing to salvage. I don't believe you've known it before. Knowing it now is the only way to really heal yourself and your marriage.

"I know most hate me here," This is a DJ to yourself and to others. Read up on Disrespectful Judgments in the Love Busters. Realizing this one changed my life, has given me that peace you see. It is yours for the believing...when you get this crucial truth.

"but gosh, your reaching out means more than you know. I've been feeling very discouraged, and I saw some of that in habiba, and I guess that's why I feel so strongly that I wanted to reach out to her in some measure of kindness." Can you see how by seeing in someone else, you see into yourself? Without judgment, this is how we find ourselves, when we've been living from the outside in. You're already on the good path to health and healing. Conflict doesn't mean there is no lesson, most likely indicates more than one to be learned in it.

"Please pray for me and my family; i really want to keep doing the right thing" You got it. In my prayers, right now. Tell me something...if you do the right thing, will you become right?

I look forward to the next step. I'm going out of town Monday, for the week, so if you're on tomorrow, I'd love for you to post the list of words by each name...without the name. You can number them, if you want; and if you don't want to type all of them, let me know.

LA

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LA, this will be a project tonight, and I will write back. Thank you

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