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I sent the following email to Dr. Harley last week. Joyce emailed me and said it would be read on air around 10:10-10:15 CST. If you want to hear Dr. Harley's answer click on the Radio link at the top right of the webpage.

Hi Dr. Harley,

Do you think there is a difference between a serial cheater and a one time cheater as far as the motivation and the manner which both are treated?

I tend to believe that serial cheaters cheat because of a character defect and one time cheaters cheat perhaps because of a marital problem, but is an aberration of character. Would you agree or disagree with that assessment?

Can Marriage Builders principles be effective in resolving serial cheating? If not, what would be effective?

Thanks,

Melody

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Can Marriage Builders principles be effective in resolving serial cheating? If not, what would be effective?


I'm so happy to read this, "as a victim" of a serial cheater who left multiple wives through affairs.

Not that I want that one back, but because I know the devastation these types of cheaters leave in their wake.

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It would have been nice 2 hear what he thought about the similarities/differences between serial cheating and LTAs, 2.

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Missed it .... so what did they say??????


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Did I miss it? Today was the first day to listen on the new computer and had to go thru all the set ups on the audio program.

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I didn't sign on until 10:06; I hope I didn't miss it! Still listening...


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It is in the next segment!


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I just spoke to Joyce and she is going to read the email on air. I am on hold.


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Cool,
I didn't get on till 11:15 eastern & thought I might have missed it.

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Mel is on now <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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I just saw this. Is she done? What did he say?

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Sounded like a yankee accent Melody...r u sure you are from Texas...I definitely heard a hint of Midwest in that twang

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Good topic today. Mel great question.

Thanks for the heads up.

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Gosh they cut her off like they try to do in the forum. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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well...I am still of sort confused. He said they WERE different, but that in order to change a serial cheater, a more GLOBAL approach must be taken. For example, his environment must be changed to disallow him the opportunity to cheat.

He said that often anti-social personalities are serial cheaters but they usually don't marry.

He believes that MB principles can be effective but only if the person is willing.

Anyone who listened, please feel free to add!


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Sounded like a yankee accent Melody...r u sure you are from Texas...I definitely heard a hint of Midwest in that twang

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Just to put it out there but it sounded like he was saying that a serial cheater is not necessarily character flawed but the recovered couple must take a more global approach to affair proofing their marriage, as recovered. They should commit to working together was one example of how to overcome the weakness of the serial cheater.

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I think I'll call so I can get that book. Anyone have a question?

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