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This is the situation, my husband has 2 drinking buddies that hound him constanly every week, one of them twice a week to go over to their house and drink.... guys only. One of them, is a working alcoholic, at one point at my own house he patted my oldest teenager behind while making a suggestive comment that she didnt hear, but others did. I found out about it later, I confronted him with it, he apologized, later I found out more comments that were made by him on that day that made me very determined to end this friendship. This man apologized to my husband, he said that when he drinks he does stupid things and begged for my husband's forgiveness, my husband forgave him because as he put it its the Christian thing to do, but also because I know that he likes to hang out with this guy, he does like his company, this man also enjoys getting high while taking shots and drinking beer. For my part I dont ever want to be a close friend to him, but I forgive him and can be -friendly- to him in public, mostly because of his wife who has to live with him. She in turn since her husband likes to go without her to see his drinking buddies (my husband one of them and another guy)decided to live a life of her own as well, she likes to go out to bars, girls only, lots of girls night out and beach trips without the husband. I have gotten several invitations from her to do the same, but I have turn them down. My husband wants me to keep the friendship because they are neighbors that we are going to run into them while at other neighbor's houses, so for him I'm doing the friendly thing, although my husband tells me I'm dead wrong by being this way, that I should be a good Christian and forgive, I did forgive the man, I just dont want to be part of their inner circle, its that so wrong? I think my husband may not mind if I made a bigger effort and became best friends with his wife so he can be best friends with the husband. The other character is a man that although he has 3 children from the person he lives with, he refuses to marry her, he treats her like trash in public, he makes it very uncomfortable for people to be around them because of the hostility and the way he treats her, I can only imagine how he treats her when we are not around, buy my understanding based on her own words its pretty bad. She had a child from a prior relationship that is now 15, this girl has lived with her mom and this character since she was 4 years old, but has been treated like a second class citizen by him since he only cares about the 3 that are his blood, its very obvious who he wants around, and its not this poor 15 year old that grew up feeling rejected by this man. They got into a big fight recently and he kicked her out, so her mother had to take her to live with the child's father who lives with his parents because he is a crack addict. This man seems to have no conciense, all he wanted was for her to go away... and she did. Because of the mess he has at the home front, due to his own creation, he gets very lonely and constantly calls on my husband, twice a week, to go over to his house to drink, at the beginning that was the case but I put my foot down, now is a bit less, but he wont stop calling. My problem is that my husband also likes this guy, he says that his problem at home shouldnt affect his friendship with him, that he is been nothing but a good friend and that how is that his problems at home affect me? Well, number one he doesnt understand that perhaps on the weekends I would like some family time, or perhaps make some plans with my husband, he leaches every time my husband has on the weekend so he can go over and -play-. My husband sometimes gives him an excuse as to why he cant but he doesnt get the message. My husband also told me that he doesnt know how to stop this, that for him to tell him that the reason is because I dont like it, would be humilliating to him due to the fact that this man could not comprehend what to be a good husband is, while my husband is making the effort to please me. He likes this guy as well and dont want to loose the friendship, but he likes less our fights about it. I would like to say though that my husband is nothing like the other two, he is a good father to my children and he tries to be a good husband. But he loves to hang out with these two characters, so we fight constantly about it. Recently he said -I won" and is gonna try to end the -regular basis- situation with the latter guys, but I know he resents me for this. Please someone tell me I am wrong!! AM I?

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I don't think you are wrong. If a male adult puts his hands on my daughter while making suggestive comments he better never step foot in my house again and better be thankful I didn't have him arrested for it. I'm sure your daughter feels uncomfortable around him. Whether it be the Christian thing to do or not (as your H puts it) he needs to consider his daughter's feelings. The excuse Oh, I was drunk and I didn't mean - just doesn't hold up. That adds fuel to the fire and encourages my belief that he has no self control when drinking. I wouldn't want to be around him and I certainly wouldn't want my kids arounds him. The other guy sounds like he would be lots of fun to be around. Not only can you have an evening where your daughter is getting groped by one neighbor we can listen as the other neighbor abuses his wife. What stimulation does your H get from this. My H likes to drink with the neighbors too but it's nothing like the environment you describe here. Whether the second neighbor can comprehend what being a good husband is is irrevelent. Who's more important in this you, your marriage and your feelings for one another or your neighbor.

Sorry, if some of this harsh it just really struck a nerve with me.

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Actually I really appreciate your comment, I think part of the problem is that my husband doesnt have a lot of close friends so this fact impairs his judgement. Thanks again <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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My H only has a few friends that he drinks with at home but one thing I do have to say for him he will without hesitation ask somebody to leave if they cross any kind of line. I just can't understand why you would want to be friends with someone that acts like that.

My H used to want to go to the enlisted club after work all the time (not really all the time maybe twice a week). But he did so many things that I didn't agree with it - we would fight about it everytime he came home. He would go and not tell me and then not come home until 1100. He would drink from like 400 pm to 10 or 11 pm and then drive home drunk. I was forbidden to go because he did not me up there for some other guy to hit on. A woman from there called the house one night after he was home from there. So you can imagine we had several arguments about it. Now it seems that it has sunk in how dangerous it is to get behind the wheel of a car and drive home like that so he rarely goes. But we went through the resentment phase. He couldn't stand it but I held my ground. He was not only endangering everything he had but everything we had as well.

Hope things get better and welcome to the board.

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Thank you so much, I hope it gets better too <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

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Sounds like your dh has low self esteem- and has picked out "friends" who will make him look better, no matter WHAT he does. If he is not willing to part with these lowlifes, watch out that he doesn't learn to sink to their level.

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That is my fear, you know the old saying... a bad apple. Thank God he hasnt changed so far, he always asks me before going, his behaviour at home hasnt changed... yet, but of course the way he always reasons with me is that he is his own person and so far he hasnt shown to act like them at home, so why should I worry.

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Why worry?

Because I'll bet before he become "friends" with them, that a lewd remark about HIS daughter would not be ok...

Because, before he met them, it wasn't "normal" to abuse/treat people badly (especially significant others)...

He's already changing. How far is he willing to go.

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I agree with you, he tells me that when they get together, there isn't much talk about their personal lives, mostly sports, etc... that for him is a good way after a difficult week to unwind, he tries not to get too involved in their personal life, probably because he knows its not a healthy subject. Although I know that my hostility is very obvious and it is discussed... dont even want to think as to the kind of advice he gets from them regarding how he should act towards my attitude.


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