Gracie:

How dare you queation any grammattical errorrs and punctuations mistakes I may have mad.

I dont appreciate it at all.

I will have you now i majored in english literture in premed.

Lem <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

P.S. For 50 bucks...can you tell me who coined the phrase "Woah Nellie"?

Bottom line: This isn't therapy, confession or a police holding tank.

I have personally run the gambut (is that spelled right?) on being hurt, hurting others, saying dumb stuff, and being in the middle of dramas.

Bottom line: I can only control myself - and sometimes that even seems daunting <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />.

And whether anyone wants to believe it or not, we (as posters) are not experts (unless it's in what NOT to do, for which I hold a degree <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> ).

And yeah, there are some who seem to be a bit wiser than the average bear (and older - Hi JL! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />)... but still, they are just people offering advice after reading (usually) one side of some very complex situations.

The drama on this site has gotten out of hand lately... I've seen it come and go over the years, but it really does seem to be hitting an all-time high. I've been in the thick of a lot of it too, and I can only apologize for adding to the fray. What a mess.

NCW - Check out this post by Filly - she told the OW's husband after we advised her to expose the affair. It shows how wrong things can go.


"Well, I am finally home. I played the tape for my Hubsband and he broke down, BUT that is not all!! That ***** jumped me in the parking lot of the Walmart store, broke 3 of my fingers, broke my tooth, broke three of my ribs and just pounded the crap out of me!! I layed on the ground I guess for a while untill the ambulance got there.

She went jail and my husband is absolutely beside himself with guilt, fear and anger. I am terrified of her!! The judge let her out on bail, she had to go to some Dr. for help. but I am terrified!! I was in the hospital for 4 days, oh, she beaned me in the head with this club thing also, Icould'nt see straight for a few days and if I moved I woulk puke!! I can't belive this is all happening to me!! I am bruised and sore and terrified. My life is just one big mess right now and I look like ******. My tooth will be fixed when all the swelling goes away and they want to wait untill all my wounds have healed, something about mixing the medications or what not!!

Hubby is truly freaken out now. He totally blames himself, and you know what? So do I!!! And I told him so, if he would of been a real man and had honor, I would not look like this circus reject with a tooth gone (emor pulled what was left) my face is all bruised still and My ribs hurt all the time!! It even hurts to breath!! My fingers are swollen, there was no way I could fight back, I rememberd her say, "hey *****" when I turned around she cracked me in the side of the head with some wooden thing that almost looked like a piece of a broken chair!! Then she just started swinging and hitting me and kicking me she is absolutely in sane!! It was the most horrifying thing I have ever experienced!! She tried to kill me, I swear, she tried to kill me!! She said she was sorry and she was just out of control because of what I had done!! Can you believe that????? WHAT I HAD DONE!!!! That crazy dimwit is, well crazy!!! She said that if I had not told her husband and made such a big deal she wouldnt of lost her temper!!!! *****! I wish I was strong, then I could hunt that no account trash and kick her [censored] just like she did to me. I have cried and cried and I don't know what is happening to me. It is like a bad tv show. My life is a joke!! I am a joke!

One month ago my life was normal, now I am scared to walk out the door of my own house!! Not only do I look like a freak, I feel like a fool. I am so mixed up right now, Hubby has told me everything, but right now I don't even care about that. I am terrified. We filed a restraining order and I am pressing charges, my brother moved in with me and is here during the day so I am not alone while hubby works. My dad flew home and stayed untill I got out the hospital, he flew back and is closing up the winter house and he and his wife are coming back for the winter and to see me through this. They all really jumped down my husbands throat. He just said, I know, I know, and he cries all the time, the ******. My dad was so angry with him!! They talked alot while he was in town and I guess that settled that. What do I do now? How do I get out of this? I am so afraid that she will be lurking in the bushes, or hiding somewhere, I just feel like a prisoner. I start to see a trauma person next week, to handle 'Post traumatic Stress' what ever, have you ever heard of that? Will she try to hurt me again? I don't know how to fight. I never have been hit in my life!! I have fantasys about beating the crap out of her, but I know I would never, could never do it. My son is just out of his mind!! HE went after her son and knocked the **** out him and was suspended for 3 days, my son has never been in trouble. This has blown up my whole family!! "

And I like to think that, Mel. I liked it when Idiotville was held accountable for their support, or lack of, to Kiwi. I like to think that I can count on you all to straighten me out (like you yourself did on that other thread about blackmail and exposing).

So I guess you get to end the debate. We are co-equals and we care. Isn't that self-policing? Let's just not get TOO comfy and secure that the system is always working. But we seem to do pretty good of taking care of that, too.

Hmmm, no $50 for me. I thought about looking the answer up on
Google but that would have been cheating!

Maybe it was my great grandfather when he tried to stop his horses while out plowing the fields?

You can give us the answer; that would be a COOL thing to know. Just never know when it might come in handy! GRIN

Gracie

Roy Rogers. Now send me my money

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Didn't need to see that, b. Or did I?

No way........it was Keith Jackson from ABC Sports right? Roy Rogers???? Susan, we need to up those dosages again don't we?

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Whew Lard, I guess so!

OH, I SEE NOW!

I thought you said "Whoa Nellie"!

But you said "Woah Nellie".

Right, I had no idea who first said that.

OK.....where do I mail the 50 bucks? You had to get all technical now didn't you?

Well hayul, just be careful about what you post next time. Think it through and watch yer spielling!

oh my oh my

where to begin?

ummmmmmmm

what bugs me ... being told I am better than others ...my response "No I am not, go to heII"

all of you know this is true ....
I have some marriage recovery miles racked up that others may not have, and sometimes that gives me a leg up or a long distance perspective

but I can still pull a bonehead with the best of them

I have been callous and rude and short tempered and just flat out wrong

Good Father .... I had been growing increasingly frustrated with him long before I had my little rude outburst ... from page one "I cannot snoop it's just not something I can do" ... and I snapped on his azz, yes, it's true, I snapped coz he got himself in a deep hole by not taking action and not paying attention earlier in his marriage ... but, I did not do this TO HIM ... his mean and hateful wife did

I have been rude and just stupid sometimes ... so what? ... is my occasional rudeness any more rude than yours or anyone elses because I am supposed to be better than you according to NCW?

hail no

I've gotten Mimi's knickers in a knot more than once, and, I admit, I rather enjoyed that moaning she did !!! (sorry Mimi) ... but guess what???? She has equally knotted me up a few times ... so what?

NBII had my foot all over her backside, some was intentional and some was ... what can I say either Alzheimers or psychotic break , neither choice looks very nice. But there it is. She toughened up, and gave it right back to me... which I loved her for!!!

Crap, I even called out JL once for what I perceived was a female landmine he seemed to be stepping in unawares there was a girlie net cast for his attention.... was I right? Was I wrong? I really don't know. But like JL said ... I just don't lie well ....

take it or leave it

I am pretty certain I hurt Mrs Dubya pretty hard with my bite ... but she has the means to call me on this whenever she likes ... I think it is GOOD for us to have this tension between us, because it forces some sort of resolution or a way to find some peace about it at least ... just like real life!

and thunder&lightening or "Bad Susan" I KNOW I said one thing that was so rude (but not in my mind at the timne) that I never figured out how to recover from that mis-step, so I just backed off and let be. The word was "grotesque" ... and in my context I was refering to her hurting herself with continual jabs at her own physical being, her age, her mothering ... I did not like listening (I mean reading) to her take aim at herself day after day
*slap* I did this bad thing 20 years ago .... it felt like a thousand fingernails on a blackboard to me and I called it grotesque which did not go over well (understatement)

so

end the discussion with this

hold me to whatever standard you like

and I will continue to do what I want and take my lumps as they come

Do we agree?

NO? OK.... I still do what I want!

LOL

Pep

Heeeeeeeeeeeey! That's my Pep!
Great response!

Now go watch American Idol!!!

hey pep!!!

been really busy latley and just surfin this board enjoying the "drama"!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

just thought id say hi...

HI!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

talk to ya L8R!!

We have another hour to go until show time so don't tell!

I was off getting a mani/pedi with the mouse girl... she also got her eyebrows waxed for prom ... she looks so HOT!

and I am on T's puter coz mine took a dump "waaaaa"

and G-mail won't let me sign in right now

so I am gonna go have something cool to drink and admire my mango toenails

Pep

OT - I love mango toenails and summer! Reminds me that I really need to get myself a good pedicure now that I'm home for the next few months.

I was at work earlier and laffing about this here discussion coz THERE in my little area of expertise, I am held to a higher standard ... and you know what comes with that territory???

POWER

I can jump my patient to the front of the MRI line or use drugs off-label or get expensive treatments that are not usually allowed ....

I KNOW DAMN WELL that I am held to MB standards like everyone else coz I get my [censored] edited by JustUss like everyone else and I agree to follow TOS like everyone else.

If I am to be held to a higher standard than any other MB member, I demand a pay raise and benifits!!!

L O 'effen L

Pep <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

This thread is not about that, I have soul searched tonight to be sure...

Yes, your bite hurt me very much...it cut deeply...

More than I am saying here...or will say...

You had and have my email address...

Mrs. W <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Idiotville has a lot of silly nonsense talk. They have a lot of fun on that thread and it is perfectly alright as long as they KEEP IT THERE. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

But once in awhile comes along a worthwhile nugget and ncwalker posted one last night. He opened his heart and shared some of what is in there. (A golden heart for sure.)

He is another of my favorite posters; such a THOUGHTFUL AND CARING man and daddy. He mentioned he may be TOO caring.

Here is his post in case you missed it: (And this thread WAS directed to him.)

Edited to add: NCW, if you would rather I didn't post your message here; I will erase it the second I see your request!

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" NBII,

I am seeming to learn that caring too much is a bad thing.

Thanks for that, does it show too much?

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Well believers post on my thread (this thread) was a kick in the nuts. (Not your fault b).

My personal life is not bad. It is "taut." It feels like I have not had "me" time in quite some time. And maybe that is the problem. I have so many things holding me responsible. And I know I have taken on probably all of them.

That post pretty much reduced me to tears. All this time since my first D-Day. I have let a little rage and hurt slip out. But I felt as if I was not allowed to "deal." To many comittments. My choice.

I was raised performance based. I do not feel I was allowed to "be." I feel like I have been tricked into digitally defining myself. My approval and appreciation fell into two categories.

1) 110% Valves Wide Open, Kicking-[censored] and Taking Names
2) I suck and I am ruining my life

Thanks mom and dad. Oh. But wait. Responsibility isn't "en vogue" these days. I own my choices. Always have. But man, my "outlook" on how the world works is pretty skewed. Just haven't had time to search my heart with an objective light. And figure this out.

I feel I have not made a choice that didn't really disappoint someone since the first of the year. I am stretched too thin.

It is all I can do to keep up at work. (We are short-handed.) It is all I can do to "do" right, since "be" right simply has not been acceptable in my world view.

Gettin' it done at work. Have to do that. Messing up with mom. Messing up with mountain chick. Probably messing up with 3DS, they just don't think dad can mess up.

And the end result - I'm barely "doing" right by anyone.

Also not acceptable in my world view. Since I am not allowed to be a disappointment.

I do not know how to let anything go.

Tonight I broke.

You know who pieced my back together? DS#1.

Lately, it has been "You did this wrong...." from all fronts. It seems we hold ourselves to the standards of "be" right, but others to the standards of "do" right.

It feels like we can only admit to a flaw, when it is conclusive that it absolutely with certainty does not lie anywhere else. I don't understand this "natural defense mechanisim" I will call it.

I cannot shake the funk. Inside I am sinking and cannot seem to shake the fact that I am going to drag down those I care about. I know that it is not true. But it feels that way.

And I broke. And it was DS#1 that was there. And let me tell you, this kid has a heart of gold. And he is wise wise wise beyond his years.

Yep. It has been "NCW, you did this wrong..." On almost all fronts. And maybe I have. Don't know.

But do you know what DS#1 said? First one to say it to me in what feels like forever. He didn't say "Dad, you did this wrong..."

He said (with utter sincerity) "Dad, .... what's wrong...."

Then he listened. And gave his dad advice. And it was good advice.

He took the time to choose his words. And that made ALL the difference.

He did not postulate to "be" right. He just "did" right. And cared. And THAT made all the difference.

The emperor has no clothes.

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father of three by day, pirate by night
Founding member of "The Flaming Ladybugs"
NOT fixated.