Hello guys. Had to go out of town for a few days. I have been reading alot from this site and learning alot. I understand now that I was expecting too much too soon and a lot of what I had to say to my wife was hurting more than helping. I did go away with my family (doctors appt. for daughter) and expected to have a really bad time. My wife has been so cold hearted and negative but I have improved my side of it and she hasnt been so bad. Little things that have been bothering me and normally would have made me make comments to her I have been keeping to myself and thinking them thru, such as, her not wearing her wedding ring, not wanting to give a kiss goodbeye and say I love you, and many more but Ill try to shorten it. I have seen so much positive in the last few days, but the little negatives seem to be way more powerful than the positive and take way more effort to get rid of. The trip endded up not so bad at all. I have a couple of questions. I have so much I want to say to her but thaught I would run a couple of things by you all to see what you think. She has told me several times she stayed with me for the kids, could I say "wouldnt it be nice for both of us to be here for the kids and be happy at the same time". I think I know the answer to this but here goes anyway, could I ask her if she cares if I keep trying to win her love. I have other things I want to ask her or tell her but Ill mention them later. If anyone has suggestions on things I could say or questions I can ask I will greatly appreciate it because as sad as it is, I can finally admit that I never was a very good lover for my wife but I am trying hard to learn. She works midnight shifts on the weekends and I am planning to go to her work (Walmart) and try to act like a stranger and ask her out on a date, in keeping with the theme of starting over. I cant thank you all enough for your help.