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P.S. And Heck yeah Susan I wanna see those pictures-I may even want to borrow the outfits, 'specially if they include a tiara!! Of course they include a tiara. If Pep will OK it, I'll link you to our photo album online. (via email) PEP??? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> Huh? sure why not everyone else has seen my azz getting kissed by the pink flamingo Well Susan and Pep... I enjoyed the heck outta those pictures...thank you both for sharing...Ya'll are a SECKSIE dynamic duo!!! (spelling borrowed from Frozen and Patriot-those two are a stitch!) Seriously, with all sincerity, the two of you are just beautiful-very classy ladies-how great that such a close friendship was formed from something as yucky as infidelity-God is Great! I've been meaning for sometime to read the SPQ Book...course there's more than one, right? I just gotta get the first...Right now, I'm just starting on Neak's book though(I got an autographed copy-How Exciting Is That?), so it'll have to be after that...Anyway, it looks like ya'll had a BLAST! Do they have that parade every year? Do the festivities run for an entire weekend? Gosh, that looks F-U-N! I'd love to hear details...what a great way to bond with the girls... And Pep, are you sure that Flamingo wasn't just a sniffin'...Did ya actually feel the pucker and hear the "M'WAH"? LOL! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Thanks again for sharing! Mrs. W <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> P.S. Ya'll would just LOVE this crown necklace that I'm DYING for, it's made by Peace & Love Jewelry by Nancy Davis...check it out under the collection and then necklaces...It's called the royal crown with heart necklace and it's TO DIE FOR!!! P.P.S. I think ya'll might also like My Flat in London Handbags & Accessories...LOTS OF CROWNS!!! LOVE EM!!! Here's the site! ENJOY!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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All I can say is I HAVE recovered my marriage....how's he doing with his? I cannot believe you said that, what a hateful, horrible, misguided thing to say. You take everything that is holy about Jesus and God and twist it. I don't want any part of your "truth", I think you are a disgrace to everything which Jesus stood for. I do not believe you are a Christian at all, and I can no longer bare to sit by and watch you use Jesus' name to spread your thinly veiled hatred. Not only WAT, but every single person on this earth has a right to state their opinion without you waiting for the chance to jump on them with your Bible toting, God used for your own purposes, bullcrap. I agree completely with what Weaver said. That was a cruel, cold, nasty thing to say. I've got FH on ignore. I highly recommend it. And I'm sure he's got me on ignore, too. Mulan
Me, BW WH cheated in corporate workplace for many years. He moved out and filed in summer 2008.
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[quote]So, I am a catholic, I believe in God and a higher power and am open to learning more...BUT when I have to hear it form the likes of you and in your condescending "holier than thou" way...I tune right out (you wanna bet I am not alone on this one.) ). No you're not, Lem, not as long as I'm here. I wish I had the nerve to express myself how you do. I don't post often, but lurk daily and I totally agree with you about "holier than thou" condescending attitude.
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FWIW,
Loved the DVC book, will see the movie as soon as I can.
Loved the SPQ book, do they have a movie?
Loved the Velvetine Rabbit, The Secret Garden, Charlotte's Web and all things Winnie the Pooh. I'm a kid at heart - and loved all the movies, too.
All fiction, except SPQ, 'cause they actually live that life, don't they? Very fun stuff!
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Brave soul... thank you.
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Those comments were SO BELOW THE BELT that I still can't believe you said them. Remember how you and I once talked about your ability to shine? It's gotta be in there somewhere, but it's sure not happening in this thread.
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You know, I just started The DaVinci Code over the weekend. Love it so far. As with WAT, I find it to be much more plausible than the Biblical stories that I know.
I am not a Christian and I do believe that the Bible is mythology. That is not to say that it's fiction. That is to say that it is a grand telling of archetypal muths that provide structure and meaning for the bases of human existence.
For me, the DaVinci Code is better mythology than the Bible in that it better explains and structures my own experience of the world than the Bible does.
I understand that this particular evaluation is something that very few Biblical literalists will be able to understand or accept. It is my view, one that works for me alone.
What I find intriguing to consider is how the myths will change in the future. How will we -- as societies -- structure and retell the stories of our world in the future? The advent of the written word changed the evluation of our myths dramatically, I suspect; it will have slowed down the evoluation as we became able to go back to a written document. Now that we have fantastically more accurate (and more prolific) record-keeping and reproduction, I suspect the evolution of our mythologies will slow down even more.
Yet... I suspect that it will still happen. And the myths that survive, I think, will be the ones that provide the best lessons and guidance for human structures and life. I don't know whether that mythology will be god-centered, goddss-centered, polytheistic, atheistic, or something else entirely. It's just interesting to watch.
I am also tempted to comment on the flame war that this thread has degenerated into. I see this kind of bitter disagreement so often when people of strong faith try to interact with people of differeng beliefs. I wish that there could be more calm, interested discussion and less fear and attacks. I think we would all gain from it.
Still, I know it's hard to do and I know there are lots of times when it becomes a flame war instead. When I look at things like this, it seems like this anger and triggering, like all anger and triggering, arises out of fear, or inadequacy, or feeling powerless or unlovable. It arises out of some seed inside ourselves, after all. No one can "make" us feel anything. Those processes are internal; how we respond to the external can be changed and modified based on our choices.
So it seems to me that the best response is not to answer in kind (though it's difficult not to answer in kind, I know!). It seems to me that it would be better to take the time to reconnect with God first. It seems to me that if you are challenged and you can't answer with calm, compassion, and love, then it's a good time to look at the ground you're standing on and see whether it's the right place to build your house or not.
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Can't enter the fray on this one. Not going to take the arrows!!
In His arms.
Standing in His PresenceFBS (me) (48) FWW (41) Married April 1993... 4 kids (19(B), 17(G), 14(B), 4(B)) Blessed by God more than I deserve "If Jesus is your co-pilot...you need to change seats!"Link: The Roles of Husbands and Wives
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All fiction, except SPQ, 'cause they actually live that life, don't they? Very fun stuff! ABSOLUTELY, they DO! This year's theme was "Do what makes your heart sing" And the author IS Christian, btw. Edited to add: SPQ's do not have a movie yet, but will soon have a Broadway Musical. The music is being done by Melissa Manchester.
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Ok Susan...tell me you didn't just love the links that I provided in my post...Heck, tell me you even read my post amidst all this...sigh... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
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Susan dear, what's your email addy for those pics. Or if you'd prefer, I'll place my here for a short enough term for you.
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LOL! Yes, I read the post. I'm sorry. I'm at work and thought I replied, but no, I just thought about my reply.
I loved the links. Would it surprise you to know that I already have a crown necklace just like the one on the site? and matching earrings?
I'm glad you enjoyed the pics. The event is every year and wimmens from all over come from Thursday until Sunday. We had a wannabe QUEEN there from England this year. I kid you not. We could not understand a word she said, but she was so cute! She ordered "coffee" and people thought she said "cold feet" LOL
I can't believe you live in the south and have NOT read these books. Get them as soon as possible. I laughed out loud while reading them and my husband told me I was having too much fun just reading a book!
I had been communicating with Pep for 3-4 years when we finally met at this event. We did have a barrel of fun. Thanks for sharing our photos!
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R. ~ Please place yours here temporarily if you do not mind.
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Just J, You know I think you're just about the best communicator I've ever read... And I respect you very much -- and always thoughtfully consider your words. So, I have a few questions, about this quote: It seems to me that if you are challenged and you can't answer with calm, compassion, and love, then it's a good time to look at the ground you're standing on and see whether it's the right place to build your house or not. Before I ask my question, I want to say that I believe we DO need to "choose our battles"... I totally 'get that'... and I also believe that we serve humanity best by being compassionate and come from a place of calm. So, my question is: In your opinion, is there ever a time to put those beliefs aside and actively fight for what we believe in?
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Just to help, you can create temporary email addresses here.
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DDay 2 (AdultFriendFinder Profile) - April 2007
Seeing a counselor. I think we have him stumped.
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LOL, thanks Dobie, but I wouldn't know how to check it!
Maybe R. will create one.
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You put in your email addy, post the one it provides for you, and for the length of time you select, it will forward the emails to your real addy.
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Seeing a counselor. I think we have him stumped.
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OK. Here is my email. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> 3772fju5c1dw02w@jetable.com <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />
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Maybe I'm missing something...
And it's not my fight...
Probably butting into something that is none of my business..
But it seems that Forever was responding to being attacked...
He's only HUMAN....
It is TRUE anyways that he has RECOVERED his marriage...
Mimi..who was once called DELUSIONAL.... who keeps being brought up with assumptions made about her for no reason..that all was below the belt as well...
But it's all part of it...
Again, I say..we all have our different personalities...and ways of being and communicating...
I made it happen..a joyful life..filled with peace, contentment, happiness and fabulocity.
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Can't enter the fray on this one. Not going to take the arrows!! Mortarman: NOT FAIR! I want to hear what you have to say....
I made it happen..a joyful life..filled with peace, contentment, happiness and fabulocity.
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You know Hollywood is about entertainment, it always has been. The Da Vinci Code is now ranked # 13 for the weekend sales among movies like Star Wars, Spider Man, Harry Potter, etc.....even the Passion of Christ.
Director Ron Howard said the movie was not about theology it was fiction. It was a project he undertook knowing it was something to be done for the enjoyment of doing it. I'm glad he was committed to the work he did. I have always enjoyed the work Ron has done.
The problem is not about entertainment. The problem is not about anyone going to see a movie and enjoying watching something fictional. THE PROBLEM IS SOMEONE WATCHING THE MOVIE AND WALKING AWAY BELIEVING FICTION HAS MERIT AND TRUTH BECAUSE IT BLENDS WITH VALUES OF SACRED RELIGIOUS TRUTH.
I watched one man being interviewed and he said, "This movie made me really stop and think." Stop and think about what? It was fiction. Obviously he was considering it's religious value. Another person actually stated it made them consider their religious beliefs. So while I'm not opposed to entertainment, there does need to be awareness this is fiction mixed with sacred religious truth.
And for those opposed based on religious value, God bless all who stand up for their declaration of the truth. If that is what you believe you have the right to stand up and say I believe this movie has false content and I want to make you aware of it. It's a freedom we have. Just like the freedom to see the movie.
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