Thanks Dobbie, but I have no quams about placing my addy here even permanently. Its my work addy, electronics field, where the security cannot be brut forced or compromised in any way.

Jo

Ask Me said:



I AGREE!!

MIMI..

lets be clear..

lemonman started an OPEN DISCUSSION on the movie...

16 mostly nonsensical posts about the movie/book...

foreverhers hits the posters with

ALL OF THEM


with some of this

The intellectual depth of much of the public is astounding. South Park, that icon of wisdom and intellectual depth, wouldn't dare to put on a simple picture of Mohammed, but they, and many others have no problem blaspheming Christ.

Supporters of such garbage really should, in my opinion, examine themselves. It's getting so bad that the jerk in charge of Iran wants all non-Muslims to wear color coded identification, ala Hitler and the Jews.


well that pretty much sums up the fact that foreverhers believes that people should have NO COMMENT on the movie/book....
don't see
don't know anything about it
don't read it

hear no speak no see no

because if they do they SUPPORT it...just by seeing it...
their grouped in to Southpark supporter mentality

even though I'm pretty sure that all 16 posts prior to that NOT ONE PERSON SAID...

MUCH great about the book or movie except it is FICTION


but some how HE'S DEFENDING HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!!!


PUHLEEEEEEESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And you want to talk about hyprocrisy foreverhers...I bet you have very very very very little nice or good things to say about CATHOLICS as i have seen hints of your true beliefs on that issue here and there...

yet you will poster child MEL GIBSON for your own cause...while attacking HIS core beliefs.....


my name is ARK and I'm a CATHOLIC ALSO



I personally THINK Jesus laughs till his belly hurts when he watches MONTY PYTHON and THE HOLY GRAIL>>>>>

killer rabbits any one....

islamic reactionist and WATS opinion on evolution...in the same category
l a u g h a b l e!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ARK^^

Me too:

I AM A PRACTICING CATHOLIC.

FWIW, I am rarely offended by attacks, even by fundamentalists, on my beliefs.

They know not what they do.

Well, I for one have the problem with the fig leaf of the "it's just fiction!" defense.

If you made a movie about A.M. Martin being a serial killer, and my friends started to avoid and stigmatize me, I'm not sure the claim that "it's just fiction" would mean much.

In fact, I'm not sure much of what I've heard about the DaVinci Code doesn't qualify as "malicious disregard for truth," the traditional standard for slander.

That said, it's hard to press charges on behalf of an amorphous, 2,000 year old institution that is responsible for the Inquisition, the Crusades, etc. Lots of things have been done in its name, and lots of rotten people (as well as saints) have taken refuge under its banner. That's an inevitability with any institution that is 2K years old.

I don't think going the route of jihad is the answer.

So the best defense is really ridicule.

Have you heard about the Freemasons "faking the weather" for the last several hundred years? And I'm still on to the Lizard Men.

Ark:

This is what I was referring to as being offensive towards, Forever Hers.

Why is this OK whereas Forever Hers' comments are not?

I personally don't like any of this as a matter of fact because I feel that both sides have a right to their point of view.

However, it is public knowledge that many more conservative Christian churches are having trouble with the DVC..so Forever's POV is not that foreign.

Since this post, I was looking at President W on tv last night .... and good lord, he DOES look like a lizard in disguise.

***I watched one man being interviewed and he said, "This movie made me really stop and think." Stop and think about what? It was fiction.***

The purpose of any good fictional story IS to make you think.

A story's purpose is to give you a different view of the world by asking "What if . . . ?" and then exploring that "what if" scenario to see where it leads.

*The DaVinci Code* surely did succeed at that. The author asked himself a shocking, audacious, "What if?" question, and followed that question to see where it led. The book and the film were the results of that process.

All good fiction makes you think and wonder and ask questions and look at the world in entirely different ways. That is its purpose. And some of those different ways will be shocking indeed. That's the whole idea!

Mulan>author of nine published novels, none of them controversial, alas.

uh...cause lemonmans used those words having to defend himself after being told...

Lemonman - therein lies the problem...you don't see.


explain to me how that is a statement promoting understanding...

or just another slamm.....

ARK

R,

It's more to avoid the annoyance of the spam software that harvests email addys than anything else. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Ark:

Maybe..just maybe it's a cultural thing...

I don't know though because Susan seems to look at this differently.

I live in a relatively small Southern conservative town...

As you may have noticed or not, I am not conservative but I have been raised Baptist since birth..

I am accustomed and familiar with folks like Forever..

He is not that different in his approach and opinions than my former minister and deacons in that church....many people that I closely interact with daily and hourly...

There were SIMULCASTS all over my city encouraging folks not to read or to go see the DVC...

That's the world that I live in...

Then, combine that with my POV...

Because of my upbringing and beliefs, I felt uncomfortable with the thought of reading the DVC or seeing the movie because it deals with issues that I hold to be SACRED...

This is true although I am an AVID READER....

I also haven't seent THE PASSION, BTW...

So therein lies my position...

I think that folks are seeing things out of their different colored glasses and that there will be minimal understanding betweeen others about these issues which seem to be strongly ingrained.

I enjoy all of the opposing viewpoints here.

I wish people, Forever and Lemonman both, didn't have to slam each other but that is me living in an idyllic world that doesn't exist this...

I guess it's still true that it is not a good idea to discuss religion or politics...

mimi
it's not cultural

ARK

What cha thinking, Ark?

I live in the South. I'm a Christian...been "charismatic" all my life. I read The DaVinci Code and thought it was a really good mystery thriller . I'll probably go see the movie when the crowds die down....or wait til it comes on HBO 'cause I tend to be a bit cheap. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

My DS19 and his GF went to see it last week in a screening (she's Church of Christ). They both loved it, tho GF was a little lost regarding the story on occasion because she didn't read the book.

Many churches in our area are having anti-DVC seminars. I think the frantic reaction to this movie by the religious community smacks a little of fear and panic. But, that's just my PERSONAL opinion. Honestly, I can see both sides of the issue....but I choose to view the book/see the movie as a really interesting mystery/thriller.

Lori

Thanks, Lori.

I'm thinking I need to read the book after all this talk here about it and stuff...

My Goodness...

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BTW, AM..if you are reading... THANKS FOR THAT LIZARD MAN tip..that explains a lot to me...

I think I definitely will read the book you suggested.

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Dobie:

I had no idea! I'm not surprised, tho....she's awfully smart. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Lori

Also hope she's getting royalties for the 6+ some odd years I've purchased an expensive morning Starbucks.

My 2 cents,

The book was an exciting page turner that I could not put down.

The movie was boring, boring, boring....and long!!

And the foot on the pond thingy at the end was such a corn ball Opie slap.

It did go with the book step by step, and I guess it had to, but that added to the boringness.

IMHO

I read a review that touted similar. That unless you've read the book first, its likely the movie may leave you behind.

Anyone else that has seen the movie but didn't read the book first experience this?

I understand this totally, and I am a Christian (gawd it feels good to be able to say that again, after doubting it because my beliefs differed so much from the Fundalmentalists).

And I have great respect for all religions as well as those who choose no religion at all, but when someone uses their religion to entice, hurt and claim superiority through fear...it makes my blood boil.

Haven't read the book yet...maybe this summer.

Mulan - done.