Stef - Check out Orchids post on this thread http://www.marriagebuilders.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=37;t=019927 Reverse babble is a language you should try and use when communicating with WH.

RB Works - I for one can't understand a word Orchid says most of the time. It will confuse your WS.

Did anyone notice how neatly Jen sidestepped her 2 day disappearance?

Um, I explained my disappearance in an email to Todd.

YW Kiwi.

Good, night, afternoon and morning as you see fit.

Todd I'll keep my comments (if you don't mind that I make comments) about your posts for the morning.

Pio, could you give some letucce tea to that poor hamster, so he can relax?


Hasta la vista !

Good night Larousse.

I must go as well.

Good night all.

I have him on Mega Mass 4000 but I cut the amount in half. I have him on supplements of about 2000 calories a day with 120 grams of protein. I'll have him bulked up in no time.

It was sad to see one hamster hold him down while the other climbed the fence and then did a back drop on his abdomen. Brutal would be too kind.

I'm not sure what it is but I am having a really bad day. I am not going to post what I am thinking. Maybe it was grinding Ken's face off the Barbie cards - I don't know.

I just need to stop thinking about this for a while. I'm sure it will go away.

stph20,

I forgot to mention. Keep your WH away from this site. He is no where near ready to benefit from it and he will only use it against you in his current state. If WH decides to go NC, then discuss whether to bring him to MB.

After Pluto was "declassified" as a planet, I wondered on these pages how this would affect my horoscope and more generally, worried about the havoc it would create for astrologers. Well, Yahoo featured a letter from a concerned citizen to Yahoo's astrolger person in which that quesiton was asked. The astrolgoer assured the writer that no, Pluto still counted even though it is a whirling block of ice instead of a planet. The A's logic was that heavenly bodies other than planets are used in astrology, specifically the Sun and the Moon.

Okay fine, but if they are going to include all heavenly bodies, what about the other whirling blocks of ice that were gong to be added to the roster of planets if Pluto kept is designation? Why don't they include those? It's the missing link in astrology.

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Thanks for sharing...looks like you have a bit of a psychiatrist within to be able to have identified and worked through those issues so independently and pretty much in the same exact way a counselor or psychiatrist would.

So you are pretty much the whole package...what is your WW #, I must give her the 411...you haven't mentioned she was deaf, dumb and blind so I'm guessing she is not????

Well, I did remember the basic format from Psych 101. That helped give me a structure and format to follow.



What's the 411? I know I am being dull but maybe it's too early.

Stph20,

You are a quick study! You may feel differently in an hour. I myself am having a bad moment. H and I agreed yesterday to try things like AA...one hour/day at a time...it was my suggestion to try and be open/honest/loving and no R talk and take 1 day at time...he agreed. I am second guessing this agreement since it was my idea and my terms and not his...kinda like the one with the addiction has to want it and acknowledge it and verbalize it on there own. So I wonder if trying this is just a waste since even though he agreed it was not his idea. He made an effort to be affectionate yesterday but of course I want everything fixed NOW just like everyone else.

I keep arguing with myself that this is a waste and I should just cut my losses and pursue D. My DS who I didn't think was very perceptive was talking to me about the 10 commandments and when we got to not coveting neighbors wife he didn't understand...I went on to explain it was about wanting other women when you are married...he went on to say that is what dad does right? He said I needed to tell dad it was a sin...I told him that dad knows and that is between him and God. DS said he was going to talk to his dad about this...I suggested he not unless the subject came up since it is not a child's place to tell a parent they are misbehaving. He asked why does dad do this...I told him that dad was confused and not sure if he still loved or wanted to be with mom. DS asked why he stays and I explained that it was because he wanted to be with him and DDs...DS went on to tell me that maybe dad is using you...

What do you say to that? I thought he was pretty much in the dark about the dynamics of the M issues aside from dad likes to spend time with other women which is what was shared with all kids months ago when D was very close to happening...

I'm afraid if I keep working and waiting that my kids will be exposed to way to much. However, the literature reflects there will be more and worse damage if we D.

Sorry...as you can see, we all have the same types of emotional reactions and ups/downs...the vary in intensity, frequency and duration but they are there.

hahahahahaha...u r too funny BK. I know recently that has been debatable but it works for me.

You had everyone worried...it was a mystery of who offended you and why...hopefully that wasn't the case.

Sorry,

411 is kid slang for giving the info; updating; intel...etc

you know, 411 is directory assistance...

WW and I had talked earlier in the week and agreed to have dinner tonight after she got off work. Then Sunday, I had planned to finally have the "talk" I had been delaying. She just called and said that on Fridays, she and a group from work get together for drinks. I told her no problem, we can meet up after that. Her response was that she didn't know because it could be late.

Okay, I know. I set myself up for this one. I did. She has to know how this looks to me. The only question is which OM is she seeing, right?

I do know what Plan B is and I feel like I'm ready for it.

And I have NOT sucked at Plan A!

I understand now, and like I said, if it had been the night before, or any other day when I was throwing myself a pity party, I would have taken serious offense (I am thin-skinned anyway).

But, once again, thanks for having my back.

How do you explain holes in UNO cards to your kids?

Thanks for sharing...how awful that you had to have a conversation like that with your DS! I am really glad I don't have kids now so I never have to explain to them what their dad did.

I know I'm not the only one who is suffering, but everyone here seems to be holding it together a he!! of a lot better than I am.

I can't ever just "forget" about it, it's on my mind constantly...not even the A, but the fact that he wants a divorce...I just can't get past that.

I am at the next level and believe me I struggle to keep it together...I am having an awful day of it today but am being very productive...one benefit of the stress...

I am trying some anger management techniques...smashed a gift that was given to me by H that I would put my life on was a regifted gift from a women to him...it felt very satisfying but was a tease...it opened up my floodgates and I am livid

I am trying to decide if I want to continue this and if I even want him...of course I doubt he even entertains that as a possibility...I am sick to my stomach and will cry at the drop of a coin today...

I am prepping my home to sell in the next 8-10 months if D so I have plenty to do but none of it seems to occupy the mind...

I am afraid that even if I forgive I will not forget and as far as I know nothing has changed in his private life, if it has there is no way for me to know...I don't think he is capable of changing or maybe he just doesn't want to change...

I am struggling with what I am going to do...I know in my head what I need to do...just need to do it