No way I believe that. I can see why they took your stove and your microwave. The crockpot has a max operating temperature of what? 103.7 degrees Farenheit? No way you can burn anything down with that. At this point your only alternative is a can of Sterno. Do you REALLY think they are going to let you have one of those?

Do what I do. Buy Swanson's chicken pot pies and just leave them sitting in the sun for 20 minutes. Of course it does help that the pavement temperature in Saudi is 386 F.

It might also be named Peach Mango Chutney. Chutney has been around forever but nobody will buy it because there is just something about the word "chutney" that sounds gross. Very popular in India. Rename from "chutney" to "salsa" and American's will buy it by the bucket loads.

Chutney just looks and sounds like what you find on the pavement outside Indian food restaurants in London on a Saturday night.

Chutney has been around forever here and we have no problem whatsoever buying it or using it or making it. But then we're not Americans. Salsa is not chutney.

Anyway, to go back to what everyone was saying about admiration. Sometimes I feel a bit out of place on here BTW, you talk about WSs as though they're some sort of alien being. I don't know if you forget I was one or you just know me but it feels kind of weird when you talk the BS talk.

It could well be that admiration junkies like myself need admiration from everyone. I know I need it from women as well. I crave compliments and attention. Who knows why? My parents didn't ignore me, although it was always a given my sister was smarter than me.

I was saying I couldn't think what need the OM filled. Of course it was admiration.

Actually, the crocker pot operates up to 270 degrees. Believe me, when the fire marshall made his second trip here that fateful September afternoon, he confiscated every appliance that could heat to over 140 degrees F. That went my hair dryer. You can fool them once, but not twice apprently.

That's how I feel too. Seriously. I have always been skeptical of the alien abduction theory. I think it is a coping mechanism for the BS. It is simply that, to the BS, the WS is displaying behaviors that are totally foreign. But to just dismiss it as alien abduction is demeaning and simplistic. Alien Abduction is the main reason I avoid reading some very well respected posters. Once I see that, it is a turnoff.

I remember when I first fell in love with gemela. I almost quit my job over it. Falling in love is a temporary insanity. It is a great feeling. I made the decision very early on that I would work every day to love gemela. And it was work but I was mostly successful. But I never have maintained that "in love" feeling. Sometimes I have come close but not often and not for long.

******, It is easy to have an affair if you don't put barriers in place to protect against it.

I meant on this thread not on MB.

Sorry Jen. I should stipulate that when I refer to WS or WW, I mean specifically my own specific WW. I think it is great having you in this thread and will be more sensitive in the future. Okay?

You don't have to be more sensitive. If you can't discuss these things here, where can you discuss them.

Pio, do you read Whitney Striber's "Communion"? A thinly viewed attempt to convince us to leave in harmony with nature. Speaking of crocks....

I know what you meant. I have never accepted that gemela was an alien. I will not diminish her feelings nor disrespect her in that way. It is probably the main reason I question whether I want her back. All I ever wanted was for to be happy. If she can be happier with pool boy, I think she should go.

Whatever caused the boundaries to be lowered to permit the A, being in love is being in love.

No but I have heard of Euell Gibbons. Many parts of the pine tree ARE edible you know.

I still maintain that pool boy is long gone.

It took me a long time to lower the boundaries that made me take the step into a PA. I rationalised the EA (the first 3 months of the A) by thinking because it wasn't a PA it was not "so bad." When I knew I was going to up the ante, and I knew I was, it was no accidental "just happened", I spent a night lying in bed next to Rob, shaking with fear and horror at what I intended doing. I had been completely faithful for 28 years and an A was the last thing I had ever, ever contemplated.

Hey there, dinner was good. It was not chutney though I do know a really simply chutney appetizer.

One bar cream cheese
one 6-8 oz. jar chutney, flavor is your choice
pour the chutney over the top of the cream cheese

serve with crackers

The boys ate it & that's the real test. There were a few years where at least one child was unhappy with the food I cooked. I learned not to cater to that & now they do pretty well.

Maybe you can find an Easy Bake Oven Todd. They don't get too hot. The recipes are probably fairly limited but it will cut down on the fire hazard.

I've only driven through Atlanta or flown in & out. I hear the traffic is a nightmare.

Here's a mini quiche recipe:

beaten eggs
fresh spinach (the kind without E-coli)
sauteed onions
fresh broccoli

Mix all the ingredients into the beaten eggs
pour into muffin tins
cook in 350 oven until center cooked

You can keep these in the refrigerator & heat in the microwave for an easy breakfast.

The missing 2% ingredient for the bleach solution? I don't know I'll have to think about that.

Are recipes equal to poems or song lyrics? Actually I prefer song lyrics.

I know gemela's first SF with OM was not accidental. She clearly set the stage. Kids asleep in bed. OM sneaks into house "for dinner". At least I know what he had for dessert. Now gemela gets her just desserts.

When ex was in the army I had plenty of opportunities to be unfaithful. Lots of people that knew of ex's absences (often for a couple months at a time with very little contact) would contact me to offer "support". Some were sincere some not. I didn't have anyone dress up & offer their help as did Todd though.

Kiwi, it must difficult for you to come here & see the portrayals of WW spouses. It's such a horrible pain we have to use angry, often nasty, words to help us cope. I'll bet you understand that. Still, it must sting. What bothers you the most about what people say about WS?

Jen,

All I have ever wanted from my WW post DD is honesty and remorse. You have shown both of those. I believe that a remorseful FWW is a wonderful expression of the human spirit. Character is not defined by our mistakes, but how we react and respond to them. Kudos.

Yes Todd, absolutely right. For a WS to be honest about their actions & truly remorseful would probably go a looong way in helping to repair many marriages.

Pio, FWIW and it probably isn't worth much because betrayal is betrayal, I would NEVER have defiled my marriage bed. NEVER.

Nams, none of it bothers me. Anything anyone says about WS's is justified. I just feel a bit out on my own sometimes on TKO.

You weren't around a few months ago, maybe you were I don't remember, but when I relapsed and renewed contact with the OM briefly, I had terrible fights with both Todd and Pio and things said then DID upset me. They were both SO disappointed in me it was very hard to take. They were also both fully justified in what they said to me then.

T.V. time. More X-files. I wonder if we'll ever run out of shows...

'night all.