Pio,

I just looked up the current weather for various cities in SA. Daytime highs of 100 - 103; overnight lows from mid 70's to mid 80's.

Why in the world do you need an electric blanket in SA?

Yes, great song and lyrics. I saw Bruce with others on an old Roy Orbison and Friends television show. It included Jackson Browne, Elvis Costello and others. Anyway, I knew Springsteen played guitar but I had no idea how good he is. He played a solo that was fantastic.

Third class worked like a charm. The postal service just delivered it. They said normally they would wait ten days or so just for good measure but being the box was so wet, they wanted it out of their facility and in mine.

This place must have crockpot radar. They have alread confiscated the crock pot and its contents. It must be good. They didn't bring any back to me. But thank you.

~~~~~~~~~~~~in wafts the Aquanet~~~~~ I sprayed on extry just for my fine silly foreign friend, piojitas. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Todd, there is no such thing as an "AA intervention." AA has nothing to do with that. AA is a voluntary [usually] program for alcoholics who are there to quit drinking. I don't know anyone who got to AA via an intervention, but I know lots of folks who got there when they hit their bottom or when they were forced there by a judge, employer, or spouse. All of which have [usually] LEVERAGE or power over the alcoholic.

I don't know your situation, but I do know that Plan A is about the WORST thing you can do with an alcholic and Dr. Harley does not recommend it. Plan A is simply a new opportunity for exploitation for the alcoholic. It will not endear the alcoholic to the BS, because the alcoholic does not have normal emotions and reactions. Plan A=ENABLING in the case of an addict.

The best plan for someone married to an alcoholic is a very dark Plan B and the complete absence of enabling. All money should be cut off. Anything that will help the alcoholic hit bottom is helpful.

For yourself, I would recommend Alanon. They can teach you how to live a productive life while married to an alcoholic. Actually, they teach you to see through all our bullcrap, which is why we hate them! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Harley article on alcoholic spouse: http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi5048a_qa.html

So now I'm silly, foreign and GAY??? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

Ola, muchacha! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

edited for foolish American mistake! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

And your point is.....?

Sorry, Pio. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

She has an 8-year old son (that just loves WH, BTW, how nice).

I don't think she would have WH baby-sit, if anything, they would do things as a "family".

Think I'm going to throw up again...

How can you recover something or fight for something that you don't even want? What's the motivation?

I can do Plan A all I want, but I can't make WH want our marriage to work, and if I try to make our M work, he's going to resist every effort I make, because he knows what I'm doing and doesn't want me to change his mind.

I have exposed to everybody we know, why is that not enough?

But, what if they do start spending more time together and really do fall in love? They already think they are, I don't know what can convince either of them that they're not.

I agree BF should have kicked WH's a** too.

I'm TRYING to ignore what he says.

He says he would have filed already if he didn't have to have the 6 month separation period and he could afford a lawyers retainer. Those are the only reasons he's still married to me at this point.

That's why I'm trying to change his mind.

I did expose to BF and to OW's mother.

WH said, if anything, I made OW leaving BF easier...I'm not sure how that works, but whatever.

She is the one that's moving out. She's supposed to be moving in with her parents with her son.

Still freaking out.

Need to calm down.

I'm so scared.

You mean she is SAYING she is "moving out." Talk is cheap with a WS, Steph. Words do not equal action. Further, if the affair destroys her relationship with her BF and she is forced to move in with her parents, that will cause nothing but conflict in the affair. It will also place great pressure on your H to take her in with the OW's child. That will be another blow to the affair.

Do you think you would like to have to move back with your mother? hmmmmm

It's her choice to leave BF and move in with her parents.

And my H is currently living with his mother, so they can't go live with him.

Well, yes they could go and live with him. He is not endentured to live with his mother. He can go and get an apartment any time he wants. And I seriously doubt she "chose" to go live with her mother because she adores her mother, but because she has no other choice. Most folks don't choose that unless they have to.

So, don't look at this as a bad thing, but a GOOD THING. This will put pressure on your H to take her and her child in. And no adult LIKES going back and living with their parents.

I'm still not following...how is it a good thing? They both chose to live with their mothers because that's a better alternative to being with BF and me.

I thought I already explained this ....TWICE?

Here's what happened in my case.

I believe ex was having an affair while we were married. It was never confirmed but through his behavior after we separated & the fact he moved in with his gf (into her house) two weeks after the D was final I feel I can say he was cheating in either an EA or PA.

They worked together for years & still do. ex is 43 she is about 36 - 38 from what my kids say. She has never married & does not have kids. I thought once the reality of having to negotiate kids & having my boys around when she's used to not sharing would be a cold dose of reality. Especially because she was very resentful of time ex spent with the boys & showed much inflexability regarding his time with them.

Anyway, he moved in with her Jan. of '06 & is still with her. I'm guessing they're "soul mates", puke.

"soul mates?" lol Are they high schoolers? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />