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bigkahuna #1692678 10/06/06 07:17 PM
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And where the he11 is Stef today. Hmm.


Me: 56 (FBS) Wife: 55 (FWW)
D-Day August 2005
Married 11/1982 3 Sons 27,25,23
Empty Nesters.
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And where the he11 is Stef today. Hmm.

Whereever she is, I only hope she is keeping her britches on! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

Exposure 101


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BK,
When discussing apartment hunting and his indecisiveness on whether to stay or go he alluded to a statement I had made months ago when I tried to kick him out...I told him I wouldn't have him in my house living the life of a batchelor and sewing his wild oats...he used the phrase sewing his wild oats when saying that maybe he needed to go live alone since he never got to sew his wild oats prior to M...poor thing

He continues to waffle on what he is doing...I'm close to making his decision for him but don't want to take his freedom of choice away...i did state when he asked if staying at home was an option, "if you plan on continuing on the path you are on, no. You asked if not moving out was an option...to me you are asking about shelter...no where have you asked if salvaging our M was still an option, no where have you asked if you could prove yourself as a husband and father so if all you seek is shelter then you are not welcome here"

We'll see where the cards fall...

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Well I got tired of the ridicule for my pink shorts. I went out and bought a box of Rit dye and changed them, dried them, and carefully reconstructed the photo including a fake sun since it is 3:00AM here.

Depending on how your browser cache is set up, you may need to refresh the page if you revisit that photo (if you see pink, refresh).

2muchhrtbrk #1692682 10/06/06 07:33 PM
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Wow 2much. Very well put.

piojitos #1692683 10/06/06 07:49 PM
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thanx

we'll see what happens

I am talking to myself and reminding myself that I love and respect myself and will no longer allow WH to disrespect me in our home...if he chooses this path it will have to be from a distance where I don't have to witness or enable it's actions...he tried to poke fun but ended up agreeing that I indeed was enabling after I broke it down into pieces and he agreed with each piece I put before him...at the end I summarized and said, "now in allowing all of xxxx am I not an enabler?" He agreed

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I think you gave him more than every opportunity. There was never any downside or risk to his behavior. Now you are asking him to make choices. I think you have mentally categorized it quite well. I'm amazed that you could look at it so rationally and ligocally given all the emotion involved. Again, wow.

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larousse,
ayúdame. I am going to order a cheesecake for gemela's return. I am struggling with what to put on it. I am thinking of something like "mommy, we missed you".

Help me translate.

Mamá
¡Te extrañábamos!

Is that the right way to say what I want to say?

I always get stuck conjugating. Or should I say:

Mamá
¡Nosotros te habríamos extrañado si no te hubieses haber regresado!

(might need a bigger cake though... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

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I was thinking about strategies vs. hope.
I am in a bad shape today. I think is the result of having my hopes of trusting H crushed again.
H promised to send second NC letter on Monday when it's a semi-holiday here and he can concentrate in making it a little bit better than the first one. I gave him the SAA sample. He said it was "cute". I want to say I hope he is serious this time, but as it was pointed out yesterday, that's not a strategy.
I've been thinking on a strategy and I get lost in my emotions again.
I think I need to be more independent of him (emotionally) but I am afraid I will just put more distance between us.


BS (me) 46
STBX WH 53
Married 2000
DS, 11; DS, 10
1st A: LT D-Day - 02/14/06
2nd A: D-Day - 12/21/11
Plan B since 1/17/12
Divorcing
piojitos #1692687 10/06/06 08:11 PM
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Mamá
¡Nosotros te habríamos extrañado si no te hubieses haber regresado!

That's so nice of you!
What about Welcome Home?


BS (me) 46
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DS, 11; DS, 10
1st A: LT D-Day - 02/14/06
2nd A: D-Day - 12/21/11
Plan B since 1/17/12
Divorcing
piojitos #1692688 10/06/06 08:13 PM
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The conjugation in the first option is excellent, you know that your Spanish is outstanding, just I don't tell you it's, so no to tease your feathers even more. Then with that much Aquanet ML put over your head the feathers will look like hat ironed by Todd with buttered eyes. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />


Ok, ok, Pio, you are obviously pretty handsome, nice legs, nice tan, (*) attractive face. The short not your thing.

...and I have to agree with Kiwi that PB has nothing to do next to you.

So there...

(Would you mind to bring Todd back?

<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

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The wiz had nothing in his black bag for me

Let me explain slowly and patiently for you Pio. The wiz didn't have anything in his black back. Their new qualities came from inside them. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

LOL I'm just kidding I know you know that.

BTW, the pink shorts were so obviously photoshopped. We didn't all just fall off the turnip truck as Todd says. I don't think that colour occurs naturally in the real world or the nylon world.

BigK, yes you missed a joke but that's ok, you're Australian.

2much, you are really knuckling down now. Good for you!

Mel, LMAO. (britches)

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fairly attractive face.


LOL, Larousse, I know English isn't your first language and I shouldn't laugh but that made me LMAO.

I'm sure he has a very nice personality.

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Larousse, I've tried to get Todd back but he's very gun shy right now.

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I'm sure he has a very nice personality.


I'm sure I do because that's what every girl I asked out in high school and college told me (while declining the invitation). 2000 women can't all be wrong, can they?

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Fear not there are only throwing knives tonight!

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Pio,

The shortes way to say it would be 'Te extrañamos' it's the simple past. Te extrañábamos is equally correct and also implies like a kind of past continuos.

Could we offer Todd a bribe Kiwi? Like wine or tequila or a nursemaidcheff with mechanic and maths knowlege?

I took away the fairly word, now tell me what was I saying with that word?

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I was thinking about strategies vs. hope.

I know this is really hard and, to some extent dangerous, but I decided early on that it was best for me to give up hope. I still had hope in a general sense or long term view but I never thought gemela was over her A or interested in recovery. I decided that it would make a better surprise.

Every time I built up hope, she crushed it with phone calls or something else. You are very impatient (you even admitted it). There is no quick fix and never will be. You are doing extremely well. Your WH is likely to continue to break NC and that is why you are better off expecting it and planning your reaction.

If you look back (okay I'll do it for you) at where you were to where you are now, you have come very far and are definitely going in the right direction. Keep moving there. I think you are a long way from recovery. Right now you are still Plan A. Just because WH is back in your house and has written an NC letter does not mean he wants the M - yet. He was a lot of withdrawal to suffer first. Continue your estrelar Plan A. Don't lose hope for the M - just don't trust your WH to behave the way he should right now.

Avoid LB's and DJ's. If he hurts you, tell him how he has hurt you. Tell him how you feel. Don't ask him how he feels.

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The shortes way to say it would be 'Te extrañamos' it's the simple past. Te extrañábamos is equally correct and also implies like a kind of past continuos.


That is where I am stuck. To me, 'Te extrañamos' sounds more like she is still in Mexico. But this is why I asked the question. I cannot decide between the two.

I also have to take into account that you speak Mexican Spanish. Maybe I need the opinion of a Colombian just to be sure. They speak REAL Spanish there.

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Then with that much Aquanet ML put over your head the feathers will look like hat ironed by Todd with buttered eyes. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

dat sounds mighty cute! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

Exposure 101


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