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ToddAC #1693058 10/08/06 08:48 PM
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SF = San Fransico, pah leeeze, did I just roll of that turnip truck? You're just trying to start trouble


Nams? ...you fell for it...it's totally TRUE!


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Sorry Nams. I tried to post something revealing and earthshaking but I am afraid that I am at a similar point contemplating similar questions. And don't have any really good answers.

lunamare #1693060 10/08/06 08:51 PM
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Yeah Luna, imagine me trying to start trouble. I mean really....

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My father was in the hospital about a month ago. He had kidney stones. When I went to see him he'd just gotten back from a procedure. He was confused & a bit disoriented, I think from the medication. When I bent down to hug him he broke into tears, I can't remember seeing my father cry so I was very surprised. When I asked him what was wrong he told me he hated for me to see him this way meaning in bed & sick, weakened. Broke my heart.


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nams #1693062 10/08/06 08:56 PM
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They are so cute ! and that embrace. The sports grass field looks huge.

Ty for sharing it with us Pio.

The second option worked pretty well for me. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Hola a todas y todos !

lunamare #1693064 10/08/06 08:59 PM
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Off topic is anything to do with infidelity so on topic has a wide berth.


Just finished watching a piece on Tennessee Williams.... and revisited some of his best plays and characters.... they showed some of the most memorable scenes of his plays (which were made into movies)....really enjoyable!

...won't go into toooooo much detail about his life.... let's just say he tried to ENJOY it as much as he could!


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nams #1693065 10/08/06 09:02 PM
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Well Todd, when you look around & see marriages breaking up it appears there are a handfull of reasons. When it happens to you it's so devastating it feels like there should be more to it than a spouse gets lazy or lets themselves stray. And when the time comes to decide to try to save the marriage there should be more than inertia motivating us.


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Hi larousse! I figured you were out drinking tequila! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />


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larousse, I have a Spanish question for you. When people say que tal? I know it's a greeting like what's up, but when I look tal up in the dictionary I don't really get it. Can you explain it to me please?


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nams #1693068 10/08/06 09:12 PM
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More like how's things?


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So we are going to have the welcome home cheesecake but no flowers. Because of the way Spanish works, gemela won't know if the cheesecakes is from the DDs or the DDs and me. She will just know it is from people plural. (Should I consider the maid in that number?)

My family does serious disease denial as well. I think that is something we unherited from the nuclear generation and the baby boomers are finding a bit odd. Keep in mind that not too many years ago medical science did not have the knowledge and technology it has today. So I think the mindset evolved around that. Then we didn't expect a cure. Now we are upset when there is no cure.

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Best to let the welcome home cheesecake look like it's from the girls IMO. G will know you had a hand but I think this kind of big welcome sends her the wrong message.


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Hi Nam,

I guess 'Qué tal' is an idiomatic phrase that only makes sense togehter. 'Tal' is a preposición like 'that', it's the same as 'eso'.

In the context of a greeting it means more like 'how... good or bad is it going for for you?' it is a short version of Qué tal está... 'How is... the movie, or the game or the food' Qué tal está la película,
Qué tal está el juego?
Qué tal está la comida?

Let's see what Pio says about it.


No tequila for me. I hadn't bought a bottle since I finish the last one. Duh. I mean, I'm going to buy one when BF comes, I finished his.


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I think Vanesa runs pretty well for her age. What's funny is the way they all stop when they get close to the 'portería'.

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OK So I'm confused now. Exactly what message does Pio want to be giving Gemella? I'm thinking cheescake + flowers make a good plan A


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When it happens to you it's so devastating it feels like there should be more to it than a spouse gets lazy or lets themselves stray.

A friend of mine...a FWBF.....told me, when I asked him for some insight on how does an A start.....

...he told me...LUNA....you would not believe how easily an A can start... all it takes is the littlest gesture.... that at first seems quite harmless.... and before you know it....you're over your head in it!

Yes....the BS needs to see how they contributed to the deterioration of M and how to improve on that..... but a BS has no real control over what a WS chooses to do or not do....

The best measure I came up with....is to evaluate and to be continually VIGILANT about the level of respect that there is in R...which I have come to believe is THE cornerstone for any good R with anyone, whether it be intimate or with friends...where honesty will flow from it...where POJA would be welcomed...etc. etc. and to continually ask oneself whether or not the behaviour of our partner would be tolerated were it exhibited by a total stranger....in the most simplest situations...example, whether or not, if arriving late, S THINKS of calling and informing you.... (does this sound familiar?... did not one of your dates not do this?...bad..bad sign!)

...now....I am a morning person...would have liked to stick around for the high traffic period of the thread....but I think I will have to go and get my beauty sleep... I've got a big week ahead!

Pio...I will be thinking of you, in particular!

Good luck on G's return.


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I have the impression that there has been no contact between G and PB for at least 5 months.
So I would say that more than more plan A, Pio and G have to make a recovery plan.

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Is Pio going for a Plan A approach? I thought he'd already been there done that.

My impression was though Pio would be pleasant, make home a place where G felt she was not an intruder, maybe even feel welcome, he wasn't going to do back flips to please her. I thought G was being put in a position to come back & show what her intentions are. Show what she has discovered about her affair & show Pio how she plans to make ammends for that & show how she plans to recover the M.

Lovely family BTW bigK.


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Good night Luna.


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larousse #1693077 10/08/06 09:41 PM
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Exactly Nam, I think is equivalent to 'How's things'.


Bona note Lunamare. Sogni d'Oro.

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