There is no wrong way to do it so far as I know.

Okay that was a real thread killer! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

So now we know that guys should not cyberhug guys. The women just can't deal with it. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Bwhahahahahah

(((Pio)))

I always use {{{{TKO}}}}

I think it looks more like a hug.

BTW who did you want to cyberhug or was it just a general question?

TKO,

Thanx for the luv:)

Irony...WH was fogless...clear as vodka...when we discussed my quitting on the M he calmly stated he didn't blame me and that he had no excuses...said all the OW are meaningless and suggested if we move and get a fresh start perhaps that would help...I suggested it would be fresh meat...he countered with he would do SAHD again to be away from OWs...I stated he was an adult and needed to learn to interact in appropriate relationships if he wanted to break the cycle...he replied, "I am weak". I told him I was sad but that I was hardcore and could take care of myself, it was the kids I was most sad about...he agreed. I told him he behaved as if he were single and so that is what he should be...it went on from there but basically he said if we had been able to talk like this 5 yr ago we wouldn't be at the point we are now. I disagreed and said it really did not matter now. He continued to discuss things as though we were going to be together...don't think he believes I am truly done.

Will work out the details later. Too much work piled up I have to deal with for todays deadlines. I appreciate all the support. Hugz back at all of you!

Such a typical man thing to not get cyber hugs. Here's the break down:

{{{}}} these are the biggest, bestest, most tightest heartfelt hugs of all. They are the kind that holds for a while then gives an extra little squeeze before letting go.

((())) these are good solid hugs. We give this hug with open arms & a smile on our face. A let's see if we can't cheer you up hug that may even include a kiss on the cheek.

[[[]]] this is a man to man hug. Stiff, quick & with a hearty pat on the shoulder & a quick pull away.

Sheesh, as Kiwi likes to say, keep up! Tee, hee.

Pio, It sounds like you're feeling taken for granted, maybe even building a little resentment. Can you take this opportunity to tell G that you do these things for her as a show of love & not just because you're an engineer who loves to mess with stuff?

Todd, you've been awfully quite these past few days. Are things OK with you?

{{{Todd}}}

larousse, how about you?

{{{larousse}}}

You'll notice you two got the biggest, bestest hugs.

Good Morning 2much,

I read your update and posted a long, supportive message to your thread. Unfortunately, it was zapped to outer space. MB has been so slow I have had a number of problems with reading and entering posts that I gave up.

You have been a saint with unlimited patience. The latest salvos from WH are just mind boggling. You can take satisfaction in the fact that you can look in the mirror and in your kids' eyes and know you did everything humanly possible to save your M.

Hope for the best for you.

{[(2much}])

Pio,



If it's some small consolation, I [color:"blue"] used to[/color] also. I spent nearly 3 years listening to acid and thrasher rock (which explains a lot of the headaches, I suppose).

I've only just begun to be able to listen to love songs...but the latina love songs trigger the tar outta me. OW is latina...which is something I'll never be.

2Much...people tell me all the time that they could have never stayed with my husband and the OCs. I have to say, I could have never given your husband HALF the love and chances you have. You rank high in the sainthood scale to me. (((((2Much)))))) again.

Kimmy

Good Morning Nams,

I haven't posted much for two reasons:

1. MB has become sooooo s-l-o-w that it is no fun to even read posts let alone enter new ones. It seems a little quicker this morning so hopefully they are resolving the problem;

2. One of the tumor's side effects was to diminish my hormone levels. As a result, my bones had become weakened. One such set of bones was my teeth. I have had four perfectly good teeth break off at the gum line while eating. A few days ago, one tooth got infected. I am taking AB but have been in some crazy pain.

I have tried to keep up with posts but it simply takes too long. It appears that TKO is slow in general presumbably because of the site slowdown.

So, how are you?

How is your dog progressing now that you got the refrigerator's ventriloquist to calm down?

Here's a cute little story. DS3 picked me up after work yesterday to go grocery shopping. When we got back in the car, he handed me one of those lottery scratch tickets and asked me to scratch the stuff off. He said you have to match three numbers to win. I did and guess what? There were three $50,000 amounts! He kept saying, Dad don't kid me. We both got excited and after he parked, he looked at it. It turned out to be a fake ticket someone from his office had given him. Easy come, easy go.

Well that's kind of a snooty attitude. Don't knock it until you have tried it. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Yes nams, I do feel taken for granted. We played golf and I drove the cart home and WW drove the car so she got to the house first. When I got in, she had just gotten of the phone with friend whose house the DDs were visiting and asked if I wanted to go to the bouncey castles later and we would all meet there. I said okay. She said we would eat shawarmas. This would be in a couple of hours. I was already starving. I said it sounded okay (a little reluctantly). She says good because she already said yes. I got something to eat and she tells me not to fill up because we are going to eat shawarmas later. I said she had no right to obligate me to eat shawarmas. I would get her all she wanted but I didn't have to eat if I didn't want to. Things have been very quiet since then.

Pio,

I don't even know what a shankworm is, but I can assure you I would never eat one. I have a standing rule which I developed in the third grade: say the name of the food. If it sounds replulsive, don't eat it. I have a long list of foods I avoid including: rutabagas, beets, veal, squid, legumes, lox, sardines and squash just to name a few. Shankworms? Not for me.

Question: is this a pattern which WW followed before the A? Honestly, what you posted sounds very picky and temperamental on your part. If you are hungry, eat. If you don't want to eat shankworms, don't eat them. Or eat one just to be polite. Or I am missing something here?

Oh yeah, add rattlesnake to the list. Don't eat rattlesnake.

>Well that's kind of a snooty attitude. Don't knock it until you have tried it.

I wish I could. But then, she wished she was blonde....

(snort)

Add lengua and tripas to the list for me Todd.

(gag)

See Pio?

There is also the "other" list of foods which sound atractive and are a bit, if not downright, disgusting.

After graduating from college, I took my first job with a Boston based company. For our international delegates, Boston is located in the People's Republic of Massachusetts. Within two weeks of my employment, they flew me to the home office. That evening, my boss, his boss and his bosses' boss took me to dinner. Here I am, a young man, hungry, sitting at a table at the very clubby Locke-Ober. They all pined that I had to try the lobster or scrod. (Suffice to say I do not eat "scrod". Ugh). Anyway, as I scanned the menu, an item jumped off the page at me: sweetbreads. I had always had a sweet tooth and I figured hey: I love cinammon rolls, honey buns, Little Debbies,etc. I remained hungry after dinner. I refused to eat the "sweetbreads". I could smell them and that was plenty. They all had a good laugh and said something about the Southern guy who fell off the turnip truck. At least it wasn't the rutabaga truck. I would have stunk to high heaven.

The issue is she expects me to eat even if I'm not hungry because it "looks" good. I don't like to eat if I'm not hungry and I don't really like shawarmas all that much because of all the chicken fat in them. And if I don't eat, she gets mad.

The question is: was WW this way before DD or is this new behavior?

Okay, it is slow enough in TKO that song lyrics are justified. Sorry but it just is.

I also hate love songs these days. I like breakup songs. Nobody does breakup better than the heady Jackson Browne. Well, maybe the bad breaker-upper on Seinfeld. Here are the lyrics to his masterpiece title album, "Late for the Sky".

The words had all been spoken
And somehow the feeling still wasn't right
And still we continued on through the night
Tracing our steps from the beginning
Until they vanished into the air
Trying to understand how our lives has led us there

Looking hard into your eyes
There was nobody I'd ever known
Such an empty surprise to feel so alone

Now for me some words come easy
But I know that they don't mean that much
Compared with the things that are said when lovers touch
You never knew what I loved in you
I don't know what you loved in me
Maybe the picture of somebody you were hoping I might be

Awake again I can't pretend and I know I'm alone
And close to the end of the feeling we've known

How long have I been sleeping
How long have I been drifting alone through the night
How long have I been dreaming I could make it right
If I closed my eyes and tried with all my might
To be the one you need

Awake again I can't pretend and I know I'm alone
And close to the end of the feeling we've known

How long have I been sleeping
How long have I been drifting alone through the night
How long have I been running for that morning flight
Through the whispered promises and the changing light
Of the bed where we both lie
Late for the sky