And then there is the formerly ubiquitous Bob Dylan. Great I'm a leaving song.

It ain't no use to sit and wonder why, babe
It don't matter, anyhow
An' it ain't no use to sit and wonder why, babe
If you don't know by now
When your rooster crows at the break of dawn
Look out your window and I'll be gone
You're the reason I'm trav'lin' on
Don't think twice, it's all right

It ain't no use in turnin' on your light, babe
That light I never knowed
An' it ain't no use in turnin' on your light, babe
I'm on the dark side of the road
Still I wish there was somethin' you would do or say
To try and make me change my mind and stay
We never did too much talkin' anyway
So don't think twice, it's all right

It ain't no use in callin' out my name, gal
Like you never did before
It ain't no use in callin' out my name, gal
I can't hear you any more
I'm a-thinkin' and a-wond'rin' all the way down the road
I once loved a woman, a child I'm told
I give her my heart but she wanted my soul
But don't think twice, it's all right

I'm walkin' down that long, lonesome road, babe
Where I'm bound, I can't tell
But goodbye's too good a word, gal
So I'll just say fare thee well
I ain't sayin' you treated me unkind
You could have done better but I don't mind
You just kinda wasted my precious time
But don't think twice, it's all right

OK, so what is a shawlwarmer and why does she care if you eat or not? That sounds very controlling to me. Aren't you an adult who knows when he's hungry and wants to eat?

Has she always been that way? Can you talk to her about her behavior and tell her how it makes you feel? If she's really wanting to work on the M, she should know your feelings and respect them.

Yes she has always been this way only now I am fighting back.

Shawarmas are made from either lamb or chicken. Start by placing alternating layers of hammered out meat and fat on a long spit and hang it vertically in front of a gas fired burner where it rotates. Since it is always done outdoors, the flies stay on the part away from the gas burner so they have to be really agile and stay on their toes. As the meat rotates, the gas burner cooks it. The meat is shaved off with a knife, chopped up a bit more and then placed in arabic bread with lettuce, garlic/butter paste and a pickle with a flavor without description. It is rolled up and eaten. There is no control on the cooking. If the shawarma stand is not too busy, the meat is cooked. If it is really busy, they just shave and shave and don't care if it comes off raw. Shawarmas have killed more people than typhoid.

Somebody once said that the art of life (or war I suppose) is choosing your battles wisely. If she engaged in this kind of behavior before the A, I mean honestly what is the big deal? I know where you grew up. You have eaten chicken fat before. So have I. We survived. Just take a couple of bites and let it be. This is not a battle worth fighting.

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I have always loved this song. It's a REAL love song but I won't admit liking country music if you ask me, so don't ask me.

You may think that I'm talking foolish
You've heard that I'm wild and I'm free
You may wonder how I can promise you now
This love that I feel for you
Always will be

You're not just time that I'm killing
I'm no longer one of those guys
As sure as live
This love that I give
Is gonna be yours until the day that I die
Oh baby

I'm gonna love you forever
Forever and ever, amen
As long as old men sit and talk about the weather
As long as old women sit and talk about old men
If you wonder how long I'll be faithful
I'll be happy to tell you again
I'm gonna love you
Forever and ever
Forever and ever amen

They say time takes its toll on a body
Makes a young girl's brown hair turn gray
Well, honey, I don't care
I ain't in love with your hair
And if it all fell out
I'd love you anyway

Well, they say time can play tricks on a memory
Make people forget things they knew
Well, it's easy to see
It's happening to me
I've already forgotten every women but you
Oh baby

I'm gonna love you forever
Forever and ever, amen
As long as old men sit and talk about the weather
As long as old women sit and talk about old men
If you wonder how long I'll be faithful
Just listen to how this song ends
I'm gonna love you
Forever and ever
Forever and ever amen
I'm gonna love you
Forever and ever
Forever and ever
Forever and ever amen

Country music? I didn't know they had hicks in NZ.

Isn't Randy Travis the one who had that song, "I'm Gonna bore you forever"?

Very funny, hmmmph.

Yes, that's why he's my guilty little secret. I'm not allowed to play it at home within earshot of anyone.

I play it LOUD on my car CD player and sing along.

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Just thought I would drop by and say 'HI' to EVERYBODY. Been busy, but lurking and am trying to stay 'caught up' (as if anybody noticed!....LOL)



I see that some very serious issues are being dealt with... good thing Nams is there to set us straight!

2much...sorry to hear about your WS.....it must really hurt... looks like WS has serious issues to resolve and is blowing his chances with you... keep focusing forward on what you need to do for you and your kids...it will get better...

Todd...I know I am a little late about your good news...but it looks like our group 'vibes' did the job..

...and just so nobody feels left out....

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Pio,

So?.....she's allowed! ...me thinks she might quit when it no longer has any effect on YOU!

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You all have been great...I am definitely not a saint but thanks for ranking me up there:)

I must confess Pio, it galls me when WH doesn't eat when we (the family) whether he is hungry or not. To me it is more than a nutrition issue...I am more concerned with being part of the family, using it as social interaction with the kids. However, even if he comes home at his normal time I used to get peeved if I made dinner and had it ready for him and he didn't eat...if I didn't have it waiting he would be peeved. As far as at a social gathering...I think it is polite to eat something...now those Sha-na-na things...I wouldn't necessarily eat those but just to be hospitable would indulge in a small something. JMHO

Todd,
I would never take you for someone who avoids foods based on how they sound...what about goulash? slaw? zuchinni? would you eat calamari b/c it sounds more musical than squid? What about your beverages? Are you equally discriminating?? Hmmmppphhhh, I thought I pretty much had you pegged!

It is cold here, I just sipped a hot chocolate with tons of whipped cream and am sitting in a big leather chair near the fire at the local wi-fi cafe...doesn't get much better on a blustery day.

MB has been running sooooooooooo sssssllllllllooooooooowwwww

I must chime in on the I HATE LOVE SONGs club...perhaps with time it will change but I must agree with nams...or was it larousse??? I am more into the angry music these days

If you want to laugh so hard you are incontinent read the thread "white stuff in panties" no disrespect to the threadmaster but read starfish reply...I was a laughing idiot...if you don't think it's funny there is seriously something wrong...with...ok...maybe me??? no...you!!!

Can you believe when I got home there were flowers waiting for me???? I have finally made up my mind and am at peace with it ...figures that is how things work...don't worry I haven't changed my mind...I am just being the same as I ever was which doesn't make any sense to him.

The Pio family makes me feel like the worst mom ever...I haven't done much at all for Halloween...we bought pumpkins 2 weeks ago and cleaned them and polished the outside to a high gloss with hardwood floor wax...they are gleaming...tip...don't let them get wet or they bubble:(

Pio, when the moment is right just let G know that you are needing a little TLC...give her the green light, help set it up so it makes you feel happy and safe/warm about you as a couple. You just need some love bank deposits in your form and maybe she isn't in tune to what you like/need. Did you guys do the EN Q's yet?

Stph20...what's up with the dating? Sounds good...

BK, Larousse, KiwiJ, Nams, Cinderella, Dealan-le, Luna hugz
I gotta go do kid pick up from religion class...will try to chat back later. If I don't make it back have a cozy night!

Ah. We have those here in Lebanese fast food shops. They call them Donner Kebabs though and they are cooked indoors.

The white stuff one made me gag.

Couldn't believe he didn't know about "that" issue already.

I feel left out of the pumpkin parade. We never buy our pumpkins till the day before...otherwise we'd end up with ooey, gooey, smelly pumpkin soup....and if you leave it too long, it'll leave a nasty stain on your porch.

BLAH!

I'd love to be able to carve our pumpkins a few days before!

- Kimmy

(((2Much)))

Todd - One thing I refuse to eat is Tripe - the lining of a sheeps stomach cooked and served with a white sause. Talk about vomit.

Hi 2much,

Sorry to disappoint.

No, will not eat goulash.

Never ate cole slaw until I was 38.

Zuchinni? No problem there.

Calimari? Of course it is a euphemism for squid. I don't eat either. Both are greasy and stringy.

Think about it: any food that has a euphemism is bad news. Snails, squid, raw fish, whatever sweetbreads really are; seems to be some conflicting information of that. Chitlin's. Scrod. Rocky Mountain oysters? No thank you.

Beverages? Not really. Okay, it does carry over to some beverages. For example, I will not touch Jaggermeister. Nasty.

You'd eat my ghoulash.

It is a thick, fragrant beef casserole, flavoured with onions, tomatoes, paprika and carraway and is DELICIOUS. I serve it with loads of creamed potatoes. My Austrian exBIL taught me how to make it.

Is that some kind of Halloween dish, Jen?

ROTFLMAOPMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought huh? what? What's she on about the silly Brit...

Then ker-plunk. The penny dropped.

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Hoist on my own petard as they say. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to check in and say hello to you all. It has been busy on TKO while I was partying in Vegas. I had no idea how stressed I was until I was out of the pressure cooker for a few days.

Todd, your news was a wonderful reason to celebrate and a fine evening and hangover was had by all. The weather was so perfect that we laid by the pool and recuperated. The show you recommended was sold out the one evening we had free. It is obviously a popular show and next time I will book ahead. We did go to see Zunamity and laughed and blushed our way through the show.

2much, I am so sorry but I hope your decision has given you peace of mind. You certainly have gone above and beyond to
save your marriage.

Steph, going out on dates sounds like a great idea. Try to just enjoy the moments and see where they lead you.

Pio, It sounds like you need to sit down and have a long chat with your W. Maybe the date idea wouldn't hurt for you too? I think we all get way too busy in our everyday hectic life and forget romance.

Kiwi, did your daughter enjoy Vegas? Where is she now?

I'm sorry I know I am missing out on commenting on way too many people but it takes some catching up on 15 pages of posts.

I do have a little bit of news myself. The time I spent away was such a relief and I did manage time to myself. It was amazing how much clearer life can be when you step out of the mix for a few days.

I came home yesterday and informed my H that I want a separation. I will not continue to live like we have been. I have been trying so hard to forgive his lack of compassion and care for me while I was ill and his contempt for our marriage and honoring his vows. I finally can see that some things are just unforgivable - plain and simple as that. His continued infidelity did not erode the foundations of our marriage it swept them away.

He will move out this weekend. The boys are not as shocked as I would have thought and are I think, both sad and relieved. I am so incredibly sad that 21 years has led me here but I feel like the weight of the world has been lifted from my shoulders.

Sorry for all the typos it is hard to see through the tears I shed for all of us. I thank each of you for trying to help me but I think I found MB a little too late. No, in actual fact nothing would have worked a miracle. It is the happy memories that make it so hard to let go.

I actually am looking forward to no longer paying a PI to tell me what my H is doing. It is no longer my concern and that is a good feeling.

Beth

{{{Beth}}}

Ohhh...Beth....I'm sooooo sorry....as you know, many here KNOW how badly you are hurting.......

Have you thought of giving PLAN B a try? ...N/C with WS as long as there is contact with OW..... it was a life-saver for me..... not being in direct contact with WS (...would have preferred total, but some 'indirect' contact is needed due to boys DS10 & DS15)...

...because...unfortunately....due to the selfishness and lack of respect for others...contact with a WS can be very destructive.....

...no offense to any FWS here......

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