Well, speaking for you... that must include hinesty... since you seem to want to avoid that at all costs.... time for me to add this [color:"red"] woman [/color] to the blocked list.

I am no Behavioral Scientist. I am just curious.





People are very eager to talk about themselves. The difference with this venue is that the perceived anonymity sometimes influences people to reveal things that they otherwise wouldn't.




Soemtimes the way you perceive other people often has to do with how you perceive yourself.

And sometimes it is just because the person is an *****.

My reply was real.




lighthearted = making fun of someone

Wow...I gues it's all about perspective.




Affairs are SERIOUS business-nothing to make fun of.

When did asking questions become ridiculing someone?



How does "I am not interested in having an affair" translate into "My marriage is perfect" ???

Knewbetter... you've gone way over my head here.

I was responding to Froz's post in that we were all ridiculing Cin Suga. I cannot speak for the other posters, except to say that most of them I have seen repeatedly offer excellent help and advice to many. My inclusion in the French Toast line of thought was simply that... an interest in their recipes.

I have seen countless threads on here go off in other directions to the point where you forget what the original thread was about... or that there are several conversations happening at once like in a counterpoint harmony. I entered in on this basis alone. My comment about Cin sug being ridiculing was simply MHO and in debate to Froz's inference that we all were ridiculing her. I simply felt that it was going both ways.

Where you lost me was stating that I was saying that Cin Sug is dangerous to the MB community. Where the he!! do you get that from what I had said? If you have read any of my other posts, you will see that I have always promoted free speach on these threads and strongly feel that all input has some value.

I also have stated that marriage is a difficult part of life...one for mature adults. If someone is unable to take some good-natured jabs or even vindictive words from strangers on a forum, then how can they ever have the maturity and strength to handle marriage?

Now, I am not saying that Cin Sugar is like this. In fact I've been impressed with her fairly calm responses throughout. I am merely defending against the wrap on the knuckles we were receiving.

Shaden

PS...Mr. W... thanks for the help. Mrs. W... I'm starting to get a little wordy, do you think you could offer some advice?

CS... if you look back you will see my post was edited. I added this line in after more for effect. I shouldn't have and I apologize.

Shaden

[color:"red"]I'm sorry Knewbetter. You did a wonderful job of responding with maturity and clarity to my abusive, disrespectfull and attacking post.

I know nothing about you as a poster and personally meant none of my post after the words "Now before". I apologize if you took offense at any of those words. They were not sincere or real. Rather, I just altered the exact same words Cinn Sugar used (see below) to attack Notsouneak. It was Cinn Sugar's 2nd post ever on MB. I'm betting/hoping her words don't seem so insightful, articulate and intelligent when they go after YOU.

Mr. Wondering


In case you missed it the first time I'll quote it for you:[/color]

CS... The reason the word real is in quotations is because I meant that there didn't seem to be a reason explaining your questions... at least not one that made sense to me. I was not saying that you were lying... just had not explained yourself to my satisfaction, anyway, after repeated questions.

There is nothing wrong with being curious or trying to protect yourself from an A in the future. It may seem strange to many for someone to read a book about dealing with alchoholism when the person is neither an alchoholic, dealing with an alchoholic or studying to assist alchoholics. Just curiosity, although not wrong, seems unusual. The same would be for your responses to why you are asking about infidelity. Nothing wrong, and in fact, extremely insightful of you if you are simply trying to be proactive and ensure your marriage is protected. I guess that would have been an answer that may have helped. But unless I missed it in my reading, I didn't see any such answer. If it is there, then again I apologize.

Shaden

Mr W, KB rocks, always has and always will. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

CS, you chose the infidelity board even though your marriage has not been affected by infidelity. That is why your motives are being questioned and why everyone is so sensitive to your presence. There are a number of posters on this board who are neither WS or BS and they are well known for their wisdom and humour, support and 2x4s.

I don't think for a moment you're a troll, trolls have a different "feel" to them.

I think you are looking for something.

Apology accepted Shaden.




At this time-allow me to take the opportunity to state this:

My marriage is not perfect. I don't think any relationship is perfect because relationships involve people and people are imperfect beings.


I'll throw something out there...

One thing that my husband says I could work on:
-Double standards: He says I abhorr gender based stereotyping, yet I insist that he does all the traditionally "male" stuff around the house.

Well, after much analysis, consideration (and denial)-I was forced to conclude that he was 100% correct.

Right on Sista...





But "everyone" don't have the right to disagree with MB veterans!


LOL!

KnewBetter,

I'll also add this for your (and others) understanding.

Mrs. W and I are friends of Neak off-line. Her husband's OW has never gotten over being "betrayed"/dumped by her MM. Such OW has continually harassed Neak and her husband. It had been awhile but Neak rightfully suspected that Cinn Suga MAY be such OW after her post I quoted above and a few others specifically going after Neak. Our initial responses were an effort to draw her out as a seeming troll.

Later Cinn Suga's unexplainable abuse of Sbmmal made us wonder if she was Sbmmal's wayward wife or some other related party clearly accepting his wife's foggy depiction of his marriage. Again, we defended Sbmmal and tried to draw her out and away because she seemed suspicios again and potential troll.

Follow the threads...these suspicions were not unrealistic. We have seen it happen on MB time and time again.

It "appears", afterall, that she is neither Neak's OW nor a troll. However, I'll say it again, something is wrong with this womans current thinking and it is apparent in her posts. Support has been offered time and time again. IT IS NOT ABOUT WINNING SOME ARGUMENT. KnewBetter, you of all people KNOW we honestly would support her if she chose to "frankly" provide us with the issues in her marriage...they are readily apparent to most if not all herein.

Unfortunately, Cinn Suga has made it clear she has no intent to discuss such problems, SO....what's to discuss??? lets all have fun and blow off some steam. It's all just info-tainment.

Mr. W

Where you lost me was stating that I was saying that Cin Sug is dangerous to the MB community. Where the he!! do you get that from what I had said

Oops, I’m so sorry Shaden I accidentally inferred that you said she was dangerous. My apologies, they were actually someone else’s words, who or what thread, I have no clue.

The quote struck me actually because when she said exactly what others on this thread have said before her, she was singled out. I just don't like witch hunts, I've spoken out against them before. I'm also ashamed to admit that I actually fueled one once, (anyone remember the infamous TA??....NOT the poster called Together Alone, just to clarify!!!) That one *sort* of worked out, I put in tons of time with him to make up for being so initially aggressive. *sigh*

Anyway, again my sincere apologies for misrepresenting you, it was completely my fault! KB

Mr. Wondering, no offense taken...I don't have time to read through your posts as we are going out to dinner in a few minutes and I'm not quite ready. Our house rule is no MB on weekends but I'll get back to you, until then, have a good one. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> KB

And the "certain" poster who liked to refer to you as Knowitall. LMAO.

You were right on the money with his sitch (probably why he got so riled up).

CS,

By virtue of the deep life altering pain involved, all B-Boards listed under "Infidelity" on the Marriage Builder's Site should not be consider a place where one comes to get their "Info-tainment". You have no idea what these fine folks have had to go thru.

Jo

Mrs. W, you know nothing other than I allowed a friend in need to use my PC and email address.

This is not something I'll allow you to think you have to hold over my head, so I'll reveal it here:

Mutual friends of ours (friends of me & my husband) are having a serious problem: Domestic violence. My friend confided in me. My husband is TDY and he intends to talk with her husband when he returns. They are both Marines and they are the same rank that's how we all became friends. We are very good friends and we hope that the marriage does not dissolve (See I actually believe in marriage!)

My friend probably needs therapy; but for now she decided to join a yahoo group-Domestic Violence Survivors-to speak with other people who are in a similar situation. Until very recently, talking with the folks in the group was therapeutic for her.

I allowed her to use my PC and my yahoo ID so her husband would not know / find out about it for now.

Someone on MB saw my email address (I posted it in that infamous thread offering SB an ear) and this someone performed a yahoo search . They found the posts my friend wrote in the support group.

Mr. & Mrs. Wondering contacted me via email because this same someone who they called "someone they did not even know" emailed them these posts. The Wonderings claim that this was not done to "out me" but to make them "understand" where I was coming from. They offered to "help me."

I refused their help & told them what it is that they had actually had found. I told them that my opinions remain intact and I asked them not to contact me anymore via personal email. They replied with an apology and some other prose, and my response (just prior to me shutting down that yahoo account) was to suggest a "cease fire." Apparently they did not like the suggestion because they (Mr. & Mrs. Wondering and their daughter, Neak) have been dropping [color:"blue"]mad hints about "what they know" up in here [/color] as if to threaten or intimidate me.

I imagine that if I step too far out of line, they'll justify revealing what they found. Then they'll say that the reason that I do not agree with the MB veterans about everything is because the posts were mine, and I am in desperate need of help.

The sad part about this is that a difference of opinion in an online forum resulted in a full scale cyber attack that eventually made its way off the board.

There you have it ladies & gents.

Any questions?

No problem, KB. I'm a fairly simple guy. I really was excited to read the French Toast recipes. I started putting in vanilla and nutmeg a couple of years ago without reading it anywhere. My W thinks I'm crazy when I start dabbling with food. I thought it was cool that I picked the right ingredients to add when I read it here from the rest. I've even added in food colouring... my boys love the green french toast, but my W is not too hot on the idea.

As to witchhunts... I'm still trying to get a handle on what a troll is exactly and why one would be here. I think I've got it figured out, but I'm not in the business of witchhunts.

Shaden

If you don't like the word info-tainment, perhaps it is because you don't understand the way I meant it.

It is not a disrespectful of cavalier term from my perspective.

First-there is a great deal of information here. The purpose of this board is information and support. The other piece is this:


Visiting these boards is indeed entertaining.


Trust me-web designers are paid to maximize this aspect of your web site experience. If the visits were not entertaining, there would not be so many hits.


Information + Entertainment = Infotainment.

Perhaps because I tend to detach from the more emotional aspects of communication, I don't view this as offensive...but I hope I have made my position a little more clear.

Honey, you're telling me about IT terminology and web design intent??? LMAO!

That's awfully sweet of you, but believe me when I tell you, you can skip the electronic's theory 101, trust me on this.