BO, "Feelings" are not truth, nor are you familiar with the concept of "reason", apparently. I can have a "feeling" that you are a big, fat, ugly white guy with a beer gut named Bubba sitting in a hot trailer in Oklahoma, but it doesn't make it true, now does it? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> Wouldn't that be a silly "feeling?" That is because "feelings" are not truth, "feelings" are things like anger, sadness gladness, etc; they weren't intended to be a substitute for thinking and TRUTH. You have simply substituted your "feelings" for reasoned THINKING that would lead you the comprehension of reality. And of course you couldn't debate that, because such a silly position is indefensible.

Mel... you probably know this, but I'm gonna talk real slow like and explain to you Texan... when BO is using the term "feelings" in this case, (I feel) she is referring to her "perceptions".

BO... you are correct... your feelings or perceptions are your own and nobody else can change that or argue that. They are absolutely true... to you. Our perceptions are made up from the facts we have, our experiences, and what we can see at the time. This is your relative truth. BUT, it may not be real truth. Your perceptions are flawed because you do not have ALL the facts. That is what Mel is saying. Only she knows her intent, and therefore the perception of that intent is irrelevant. You can feel a certain way about her intent, but it does not make it true... except to you... and from the little I know about this sich... just what I'm reading here, I'm guessing that is not really applicable.

Even though my perception of this argument is that it is a complete waste of time doesn't make it necessarily true.

Mel... I thought I was Bubba... now that I see how you perceive him, though... I want no part of him.

Shaden, thanks for the attempt at interpretation but I do fully understand where her confusion lies. She is confusing perception with reality and using her feelings to THINK, which is why she is so off base. In other words, I can "perceive" you are an Italian, but that does not make you an Italian. It just means that I am a fool with faulty perceptions. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


If it is not "real" truth, it is not truth. If something is true, it must be true for everyone because the truth is not contingent upon one's perception, but upon reality. KWIM?

And don't you be dissing Bubba just because he lives in a trailer, you foreign elitist, you! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

I figured that, Mel... I just wanted to add the 1st paragraph in to you for effect. My perception or feeling was that you did know but I just wanted an opportunity for Texan bashing. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

And my "feeling" is that we need to send you silly foreigners a nice little present, MrSillyForeigner: N U K E!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

"I can have a "feeling" that you are a big, fat, ugly white guy with a beer gut named Bubba sitting in a hot trailer in Oklahoma, but it doesn't make it true, now does it? "

HOW DID YOU KNOW?!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
Danged Texas Tornado...ya'll stir up so much dust I cain't see nuthin..

Bubba? is dat you?? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Hey, I am not quite sure where this thread is going.. but I would like a response to the questions that I posed to you in my prior post.
Thank you and thank you enough for the thoughtful words earlier.

BO (I really don't like that your initials make that), I was RELIEVED Mel called if that's what you're referring to. I mean my heart sank when I saw the look on Rob's face because I knew what it was immediately, but I thank her over and over again for doing what I didn't have the guts to do. It opened the door to honesty. Looking back, I can't believe I didn't do it myself. I refused to admit there was fog, now that the alien has left my brain again, I see it.

MEDC, you asked me something on another post about what I said in Pio's thread. Ah, I remember now - the "inkling". I thought about writing that before I wrote it and used the word "inkling" on purpose. An "inkling" is a very tiny feeling. I never intended to compare being hurt by Todd and Pio to Rob's hurt. I apologise sincerely if I upset anyone by it.

I must admit Jen that that's precisely how I viewed it when I read it - I was stunned by what you said.

And I guess having decided to reply on this thread I at least owe it to Suzet to make a comment here.

Suzet - My perception/opinion of why you got so slapped around on your thread is accurate. It is my opinion.

Your justifications and rationalisations about why you do what you do have not changed my opinion in the slightest. Your attempts to educate me have failed. It is what it is.

My comments were not an attack on you they were my view as to why you got such a beating. I stand by my opinion.

Thank you. I am glad to hear that you and Rob are doing so much better.

Well, I believe your perception/opinion is not accurate and I had a need to point that out. Your opinion is just opinion and nothing more…it’s not fact…and I'M of the opinion that YOUR opinion/perception about this and me is totally biased, off-base and shows a total lack of understanding.

It’s amazing how some people will label ANYTHING I have to say regarding me and my H’s circumstances (things which are VERY real and valid to us) as justifications and rationalizations…and again, shows a lack of understanding. For example, how can my inability to quit my job before I find another one – especially since my H is unemployed for more than 2,5 years now and especially since more and more African white people in this country face the threat of unemployment due to “affirmative action” - be a justification and rationalization???

Similarly, the reasons my H will not agree/allow me to expose to OM’sW at this stage and my commitment to NOT betray my H again and destroy his trust in me again by doing something he will not agree to/allow at this stage, was also "made off" as “justifications” and “rationalizations” and again shows a total lack of understanding.

I didn’t respond to your remarks on Myrta’s thread to educate you…but to correct the false views/perceptions other people may have formed by reading your remarks and biase & off base opinions about me...

And I don’t agree with your opinion. I felt I had the right to express my opinion too…especially since you were talking about ME on the other thread and stated your “opinion” as fact (which it’s not). And I will continue to do so and rightfully defend myself if this topic comes up again in future.