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She rarely posts now, and was extremely honest about her sitch, her conscience and the pressures and thoughts that paved the way to inappropriate stuff. Not me, anyway - I'm not a Wise One! Just a Wordy One. TA
"Integrity is telling myself the truth. And honesty is telling the truth to other people." - Spencer Johnson
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Pep, NOT Way2. Does it matter?
She rarely posts now, and was extremely honest about her sitch, her conscience and the pressures and thoughts that paved the way to inappropriate stuff.
The most important lesson is that PMing and emailing with the opposite sex is never a good idea. I see waaay too many people offering either general (or specific opposite sex) off-board contact here on MB. This used to be discouraged as soon as it came up but it's a new breed on the boards lately.
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If she still posts here I might want to avoid her ... !
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Well, Pep, better give up coffee. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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... argggg
a riddle
lemme think ....
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There were only a handful who were posting over there.
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Married 1976 Me:BS Him:FWS MB Weekend March 2003 2 S's: '77 & '80, 1 D: '82
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Pep - it does no good to try to "out" the MBer in question - the only reason for me bringing up 2oak's indescretion was that I have a struggle with hypocricy - and multiple personalities - if you remember my obsession with "outing" SNL's multiples... well - 2oak had some involvement in multiple personas himself - and messed with a lot of people's heads.
So he can say wise words - but he hasn't been open and honest with this board or other boards yet. And when you find out about the ugly side, it's hard to see the good in the wisdom anymore. Or have people who don't know the story seeking him out for more wisdom - at least until he's come clean. Last time he left rather than face that music - now he has a chance - if he comes back and faces up!
Cafe Plan B link http://forum.marriagebuilders.com/ubbt/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2182650&page=1 The ? that made recovery possible: "Which lovebuster do I do the most that hurts the worst"? The statement that signaled my personal recovery and the turning point in our marriage recovery: "I don't need to be married that badly!" If you're interested in saving your relationship, you'll work on it when it's convenient. If you're committed, you'll accept no excuses.
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KaylaAndy,
Thanks for bringing up this stuff about 2OfAKind. Maybe I must not say this and will get edited by a moderator, but you know…there was always something that bothers me about this guy…I could never place my finger on it…but I never really liked him…in spite of his “wise” words and in spite of the fact that he appears so wonderfully recovered as this totally transformed and “perfect” FWS that many people (especially BS’s) seemed to adore & admire so much…he just seemed too good to be true IMO and therefore silently I've always had my suspicions and doubts about him…but now I know why… Maybe it was a “gut” feeling? I don’t know… And the funniest thing is that this guy on one stage heavily attacked me and called me the ugliest names after I’ve had a relapse, send OM a “closure letter” and was honest & open with these boards about it… <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />
Interesting…
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Well, Well........look who came out of the woodwork.... ME. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I think it should be noted that 2oak is a good person. But it would be impossible for him to be "perfect". he had lots of great advice, and helped me out on one of the worst nights of my life, posting back and forth to keep me from smothering my husband while he slept........but thats a whole 'nother thread........ Anyway, he is a good person. So is the 'wise one' y'all are refering to. The difference is she came forward both to her hubby and the board, and said....A,B, & C felt inappropriate, and I'm sorry. She took measures to fix it, and has stayed true to what she felt was right. I both love her and respect her. And I believe her......period.
As for 2oak.....don't know?? I tried to talk to him, email him, and get his side. I never heard back. I believe him to be a good person. I believe him to be "right-on" about NO CONTACT. He was witty and funny, and as I said, he helped me on a REALLY bad night. But, he is NOT perfect. Maybe the big problem is that he tried to appear perfect, and that WE allowed him to do just that. We all wanted our WS to "be" as good as 2oak. And 2oak is not as good as he made us think.......but who is??
Truth is......He does have great advice.....for those that need it, they should take it all to heart. But remember, he was once a WS.....he is not perfect. Nor is he the poster child for recovery.......he ad the ups and downs just like the rest of us.
........I know many of you don't know who I am, but i had to get my 2c in on this one......
as always~TSC
Me-FBS
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Married 1992
long term affair with three/four ddays
re-newed vows 6-03
life is good again
You really can recover.........
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Hi tsc (waves) - what a surprise! Welcome back! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I still remember you! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
I hope all is still well with you!
Greetings, Suzet
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hey tray----
here's what i posted on the other thread...
short story---an EA with a member here....while he was doleing out all those pearls of wisdom! i got called a hemmoroid among other names for constantly questioning him and his perfect recovery.....no problem, i stopped posting to him. he became a wizard on recovery.....but no one questioned what went on BEHIND the curtain.
2oak....i liked you but i think you thrived on the drama and accolades you got here and on other boards. i truely wish your family the best and that you have lived the life you portrayed for us. for if you have your daughter will be very lucky.
what we do in life......echoes in eternity!
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^^^Bump^^^
Since and old post from this "favorite MBer" (2OfAKind) is surfacing again (also on the Notable Posts), I was reminded of this thread... I'm wondering if 2OfAKind ever came clean with these boards (or with some members) after his dishonest and hypocritical behavior was revealed here? Does anyone know?
Just wondering...
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I have no idea Suzet!
He sure had excellent above average writing skills!
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Pep, a while ago I've done a long search on 2OfAKind’s previous posts and I have a very strong idea now who he had the EA with. It was a poster I greatly admired and I was shocked & disappointed. Well, I can be wrong, but I'm almost 99% sure of my suspicion and "gut" feeling about this. The funny thing is that when I first read about his EA on this thread, the idea of the female poster who he was probably involved with just popped up in my mind without any logical “reason”. And then after I’ve done my search a while ago (after I’ve bumped this thread for the first time) my "gut" feeling about this was confirmed.
I have no intention to reveal her name (I can be terribly wrong anyway!), but I just wanted to share this “gut feel” incident with you.
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My gut feeling was incorrect... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
thank goodness !
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HUH??? I don't understand! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
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I guessed who the female might be based on the "reunion board" comment, but I guessed incorrectly (I was told)
but ... it sure sucks to have admiration for another poster tarnished this way .... I need some MB heros ... and I was hoping a male former wayward could be a hero ... I am so stupid sometimes
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