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MM, How long did this EA last?
How long have you been married? Children? The EA lasted 5 months. My H and I will celebrate our 20th wedding anniversary on Valentines Day this year. We have 6 children. Four girls and 2 boys. Presently our DD8 has the chicken pox...so I'm waiting to see if I'll have an outbreak in my home anytime soon, as none of our other children have had them either. I forgot to mention before that this Bible verse you posted to me earlier helped me to control alot of my fantasy thoughts. Philippians 4:8
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things. I just re-read through this thread, and can't believe how much better I feel about things today than I did when I first started posting here. My goodness, do I sound stupid. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> And thanks again for checking in w/ me. That was really very thoughtful. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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We went 1 month w/NC last month but as you may recall OM broke that with an email and it just put me back to square one :-( I am trying so hard now.... it has been over a week since we last spoke. BH does not want to send a NC letter for fear that it will infuriate OM so I sit here waiting to see what happens. I've blocked his email addresses. I've changed my phone numbers. But we have so many friends in common, I know someone will slip one day and tell me something about him.... is that considered Contact? I don't know.... but I need to prepare myself for that. I don't want to make any more mistakes!
I am so glad you are doing well in the NC department!!! keep up the good work. How is your BH doing??
Becca Oh, Becca, I have read your story here, and really feel for you. But, really the thing that is the hardest to get through is the fog. So much of our thinking is just so screwy that we really do create our own pain. Everyone here is right...maintaining NC is critical. Time and reading here really does help. I know your A went on longer than mine and you have a baby too, but you've been given great advice here from so many posters. And now that you are committed to your M, I just know you're going to make it. LovingAnyway has really helped me alot. When I found her posts I starting printing them out and taking them to bed w/ me. LOL Then I just searched for all her posts and read through them. She was even good enough to let me e-mail her w/ questions I had. I don't know if you've "met' her or not, but she has REALLY helped me alot. Clarity is what you really need...it's what we all need. Hang in there...I'm rooting for you. I know you can do it! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ~ Marsh PS:How's my DH doing? Much better now that his wife is not a fogged out depressed headcase.
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Oh, MM, do the AD's. THey help soooo much. My BH is totally against them, but I dont' know if I could have functioned without them. It's not like you have to be on them forever, or will need them even very long. Trust me, they're helpful!
I'm glad to hear that you are getting back to "normal" activities with your family. Look at your children and husband- if you really want to make it work, you will have to be the one working. It's hard- but it is just fantasy. Just "what ifs" that would never really come true.
have you and your BH talked more? How is he feeling about things? I just made an appointment w/ a counselor for next week...which just happens to fall on OM's birthday. So, we'll see about my getting some AD's. I've never seen a counselor before. I'm not even sure how to talk to one. I don't want to get into my childhood junk...I want to talk about moving forward and taking steps to improve myself and my life now. Mrs. Rob, (or anybody) know what kinds of things I can expect or for that matter what kinds of things should I hope for? I like the idea of having a 'coach'...someone who will set goals for me and give me a gentle shove to accomplish them. MM, Hopefully your IC won't give a sh(hoot)t what you WANT and will focus on YOUR NEEDS. Meaning, if you are carrying a bunch of junk in your trunk from your childhood, then that is where you need to focus... if you are simply making bad choices, then you can expect to explore why you make choices that are so damaging and detrimental to things you stand for/belive in... Good counseling isn't about making you feel good... it's about making you well. THe process doesn't always "feel good", but as you approach mental health/wellness you will feel better than ever... Be honest with yourself and with your counselor. Don't blow smoke up their (((article))) ... but rather embrace the process so that you give yourself the best chance of dealing with your issues/baggage. Good luck. I also started counseling for the first time in my life as a result of this ordeal and have discovered many life changing things about myself and have used my sessions to overcome my anxiety, controlling behaviors, fear, and insecurities... Heartsore
BH = Me 38; WW = 35; DS = 5, DD = 3, DD = 14 mo. Feb 2006 = EA/PA started May 19 & Aug. 15, 2006 = D-Days Nov. 3, 2006 = Divorce Papers - (EA/PA ongoing)
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Marsh, Curious, do you find that supporting me and cheering on me helps you to stay focused in your own situation? HS
BH = Me 38; WW = 35; DS = 5, DD = 3, DD = 14 mo. Feb 2006 = EA/PA started May 19 & Aug. 15, 2006 = D-Days Nov. 3, 2006 = Divorce Papers - (EA/PA ongoing)
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MM - I've never posted to you before, but I've been following your thread for awhile now. I even remember one quote that you said you had read my thread and it made you sick to your stomach - wow! Really?
I was just wondering since you are recovering from an EA as well - how are you handling not missing the OM? I can't seem to let go. I really cared about him - still do. Was I actually in love with him?
How did you get "over" the OM so quickly?
Thanks for your thoughts on this.....
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If you don't mind sharing....was this an online EA? Or was this someone you knew in person? My H and I will celebrate our 20th wedding anniversary on Valentines Day this year. We just celebrated our 20th this past May! Are you planning to do anything special? We have 6 children.
Four girls and 2 boys.
Presently our DD8 has the chicken pox...so I'm waiting to see if I'll have an outbreak in my home anytime soon, as none of our other children have had them either. Wow! You must be very busy with 6 children! I forgot to mention before that this Bible verse you posted to me earlier helped me to control alot of my fantasy thoughts.
Quote: Philippians 4:8
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things. I'm glad that it helped you. I clung to many Bible verses after my EA ended! It still took me a long time to move past my EA and I was even experiencing some triggers a year after it ended. I failed at NC for the first 5 months and I know that hindered my progress. Please continue to stick to NC! You have seemed to have pushed through pretty quickly. As Heartsore asked...I am curious too if your posting of advice helps you to keep the focus "off of you"? I just re-read through this thread, and can't believe how much better I feel about things today than I did when I first started posting here.
My goodness, do I sound stupid. Again, I do find it amazing that you are doing so well in just a few short weeks. How are your thoughts? I remember reading somewhere you felt you needed to get past the OM's birthday.... And thanks again for checking in w/ me. That was really very thoughtful. You're welcome. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Marsh, Curious, do you find that supporting me and cheering on me helps you to stay focused in your own situation? HS HS, Yes, it does. Part of what helped me clear my head and feelings for OM was reading the other side of the equation. Watching how much you were/are willing to suffer in order to recover your marriage was/is very inspiring. It helps to put things in proper perspective. I am rooting for you and all the BS's here who are trying to recover their marriages. Everything MB says about the WS is true. We are lost in a fog...heading down a very dangerous road that will lead to ruin for us and our families. We need to be rescued. And THAT is why in my book you all are heroes. ~ Marsh
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Marsh, Curious, do you find that supporting me and cheering on me helps you to stay focused in your own situation? HS HS, Yes, it does. Part of what helped me clear my head and feelings for OM was reading the other side of the equation. Watching how much you were/are willing to suffer in order to recover your marriage was/is very inspiring. It helps to put things in proper perspective. I am rooting for you and all the BS's here who are trying to recover their marriages. Everything MB says about the WS is true. We are lost in a fog...heading down a very dangerous road that will lead to ruin for us and our families. We need to be rescued. And THAT is why in my book you all are heroes. ~ Marsh Well Marsh, You are also giving great support to many BS on this site, so I think it runs both ways. I am also gaining strength from your interpretations and observations... and SUPPORT. HS
BH = Me 38; WW = 35; DS = 5, DD = 3, DD = 14 mo. Feb 2006 = EA/PA started May 19 & Aug. 15, 2006 = D-Days Nov. 3, 2006 = Divorce Papers - (EA/PA ongoing)
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MM - I've never posted to you before, but I've been following your thread for awhile now. I even remember one quote that you said you had read my thread and it made you sick to your stomach - wow! Really? I did? I went looking for the post you were referring to, but couldn't find it. I apologize to you, FT, if I offended you in anyway.I can't imagine I would have meant that YOU made me sick to my stomach. Gosh, I hope I didn't suggest THAT. I was just wondering since you are recovering from an EA as well - how are you handling not missing the OM? I can't seem to let go. I really cared about him - still do. Was I actually in love with him? I understand completely what you are feeling. I believed I really cared for and loved the OM in my situation too. But, I know now that it wasn't him that I loved or cared for, it was the needs he was meeting for me. I stroked his ego and he stroked mine. The things we said to each other were all fantasy and bull crap. We said them in order to get our needs met. He didn't really know me or I him. He only saw the parts of me I wanted him to see, and vice versa. Go look for LovingAnyway's posts. She has amazing insight into all of this that really helped me to see what was REALLY going on. [/quote]How did you get "over" the OM so quickly? Thanks for your thoughts on this..... [/quote] It's been almost a month of NC. Dr. Harley says the worst of w/drawal is the first 3 weeks. In my case it proved to be true. I still think about the OM, but no where near what I was or w/ the intense feelings I had. What helped me the most was maintaining NC...it was keeping away from him that enabled me to step back and evaluate the A for what it was. Keep reading here, your feelings will change, as you gain perspective.
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If you don't mind sharing....was this an online EA? Or was this someone you knew in person?
We just celebrated our 20th this past May! Are you planning to do anything special?
Wow! You must be very busy with 6 children!
I'm glad that it helped you. I clung to many Bible verses after my EA ended! It still took me a long time to move past my EA and I was even experiencing some triggers a year after it ended. I failed at NC for the first 5 months and I know that hindered my progress. Please continue to stick to NC! You have seemed to have pushed through pretty quickly. As Heartsore asked...I am curious too if your posting of advice helps you to keep the focus "off of you"?
Again, I do find it amazing that you are doing so well in just a few short weeks. How are your thoughts? I remember reading somewhere you felt you needed to get past the OM's birthday....
You're welcome. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> 2B, Yes, it was online EA, it was w/ someone I had debated w/ for months over matters regarding religion, and politics. We had zero things in common... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Congrats on your 20th wedding anniversary. Since our anniversary is in the dead of winter we're looking at going away to a warmer climate. Did you do something special for yours? I'm still not completely over my A. I still have triggers and I still do think about him and wonder if he thinks about me. But, I'm not crying or obsessing about him anymore. I'm back in my life again. I'm making REAL connections again w/ my H, children, family, and friends. And it FEELS great! ~ Marsh
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MM, I had a feeling you had an online affair...Did you meet this OM on a forum? If so, are you off of that forum? The reason I ask is because I had met the OM2 on a forum (long story since I had 2 A's). I am glad you realize the "fantasy" of the EA...online EA's are so especially since you never met the person. I also read it almost became PA...so I'm guessing you were about to plan a meeting with the OM? I'm so glad that never happened!
Our 20th - We went away to a resort a few hours away for a few days. Didn't go far, but it was nice to be alone and yet "away". I hope you and your husband get to plan something special to celebrate!:)
I understand about the triggers and the wondering about the OM, etc. That does take TIME! It sounds like you are doing all the right things and you will get there before you know it!
I also wanted to ask, did you ever tell your husband the full truth of the EA? I read you told him, but didn't call it an "affair". Just wondering if you had talked to him more about it, or where you are at with that.
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MM, I had a feeling you had an online affair...Did you meet this OM on a forum? If so, are you off of that forum? The reason I ask is because I had met the OM2 on a forum (long story since I had 2 A's). I am glad you realize the "fantasy" of the EA...online EA's are so especially since you never met the person. I also read it almost became PA...so I'm guessing you were about to plan a meeting with the OM? I'm so glad that never happened!
Our 20th - We went away to a resort a few hours away for a few days. Didn't go far, but it was nice to be alone and yet "away". I hope you and your husband get to plan something special to celebrate!:)
I understand about the triggers and the wondering about the OM, etc. That does take TIME! It sounds like you are doing all the right things and you will get there before you know it!
I also wanted to ask, did you ever tell your husband the full truth of the EA? I read you told him, but didn't call it an "affair". Just wondering if you had talked to him more about it, or where you are at with that. Yes, I met him on a forum. I left it a month before I established NC, and haven't been back. And, yes, we were making plans to meet....or at least we were talking about meeting. I kept putting it off. And I'm VERY glad we never did. Yes, I finally called it an affair to my H. He stopped talking about it, until a week ago. And then he brought it up again...and asked me almost all the same questions he asked me before. It was kind of weird. But, in that conversation, I finally was able to call it what it was.
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Yes, I met him on a forum. I left it a month before I established NC, and haven't been back. And, yes, we were making plans to meet....or at least we were talking about meeting. I kept putting it off. And I'm VERY glad we never did. My online EA got to the point of making plans and "talking" about meeting as well....Then his wife found some of our emails and it was OVER! I am so thankful we never met! Yes, I finally called it an affair to my H. He stopped talking about it, until a week ago. And then he brought it up again...and asked me almost all the same questions he asked me before. It was kind of weird. But, in that conversation, I finally was able to call it what it was. I'm glad you were able to call it what it was. It may be still hard for your H for quite some time. My H is doing great generally, but every once in awhile something gets in his head about it all and he has a bad day....even this far down the road in recovery ( coming up on 2 years since D-Day in December!). It doesn't last long though anymore which is a good thing.
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