I am so tired these days. Don't really care about much anymore.
Could care less about my business!
Could care less about my perceived lack of affection from my wife!
Could care less about my perception of begging for SF!
Could care less whether my marriage comes through this or not!
Could care less if Sh!!bag tries to contact her again!
Could care less about not being able to make a F'ng grilled cheese sandwich right!

I really don't care much for anything, anymore!

I care!

You're on this Earth for a reason. You're going through this for a reason. The reasons will be revealed in due time.
Learn from it, grow from it, and come out of it a better man.

maybe I need to get away by myself for a few days. I don't know? I feel like I have been in Plan A for 2 years now. I am emotionally and physically exhausted. My taker is a little wimp, don't even know how to revive or bring him out anymore. What a pathetic man I feel.

I just don't know anymore.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

kick your Taker in the [censored] to wake him up!

Pep

Karl,

A pathetic man you are not.
But god do I know how you feel.

If you need a break take a break.
Get your batteries recharged.

The way to revive that taker is to say "I am going to go fishing this weekend" or "I am going to go golfing this weekend"

It is not wrong to take when you have put in enough to cover what you want to take out.

It may not even be wrong to take even if you don't have enough to cover it as long as you plan on covering it in the future.

Two years of plan A is a long time. What is your next step?

BK be strong, you are strong.

What is your plan? You said 2 years of Plan A what is the situation?

Let us know

I feel like I have been in a Plan A for 2 years. I just can't give anymore. I feel like a welcome mat and a slave. I feel like I can do nothing right. I feel like second choice. I just don't know what to do anymore.

Sure you do. You just don't want to do it.

What is the next logical step in your situation?

There is always a choice.

I am not saying go into plan B or get a D so don't take this the wrong way.

One day I woke up and felt like you. FWW and I got into it about something. She asked me what I was thinking.

I said I am thinking about either going to an MC or getting a D. She said well then we should go to MC. I said I don't know if I want to go to MC. She said so you want a D. I said no I am thinking about either MC or a D. She wanted to know why I wouldn't want to go to MC. I said it will probably be really difficult and it will hurt like crazy. I don't know if I can put myself through that.

Wow what a wake up call. For the first time I wasn't mad or threatening. I just clearly stated that I was actually really considering a D. Enough was Enough.

Now she has changed some. We went to our first MC session last week. Part of the reason I really didn't want to go was on our last 3 attempts at this the minute we walked out the door she was telling me how could you say that.

This time she thanked me for going.

Sooner or later you have to decide if this M as it is today is toxic. If it is you have two choices leave it or have her help to make it non toxic.

Hey Bkarl,
Boy do I know exactly how you feel. I have been in plan A a year now. I gave my heart out to her and then some. She came backto me with 'I miss him'. I have lost my job, dont feel like doing anything. Dont see light at the end of the tunnel. Feel like falling into a well with light fading away. I guess Iam nt much of a pick up for you huh!!!! At least you know that you are not alone out there.
My next step is coming up...W is moving out so I can go through ****** and learn how to walk again. Not looking forward to it but keep thinking to my self which is better listening to how much she misses him or rip her love out once and for all form my heart and deal with the hurt and heal.
Hang in there buddy. I know I am.

WA

Yall grow some nuts!!!!! Dont act like losers!!! This is what your WW want to see......you cowering and acting hopeless. It gives them power in their sick lil minds. How about grabbing on to some self esteem!!!! I started working out.....Im no longer that pathetic, loser looking/sounding guy I used to be. You can do it to!!!!

*SLAP*.....snap out of it!!!

BKarl,

You feeling any better today?

It comes and goes. Like a lot of folks here probably think, I found this site just a little late. Things were not done correctly at the start. I do know one thing, it is instinctive for the majority to plan a. Maybe some of us continue for far to long, causing us to feel we are slighted when we perceive our needs are not being met.

You throw this mess upon the heap of everday stresses and it makes for hyper sensitive situations.

I really can't put a finger on it.

You fight and fight and fight to win back the heart of your queen and when the day has ended you feel more like the court jester.

I just know this, it is time for me!