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[color:"blue"] After interviewing all parties, the children of this suit, checking references, and consulting with collaterals it is the opinion of this investigator that both Wookie and VD love their children. It appears that VD is making a concerted effort to better herself in order to provide a more financially secure home for her children. However, based on the information gathered from the above sources, as well as from TDPRS (CPS), it appears that VD may be currently overwhelmed by her responsibilites and therefore, unable to provide for the emotional and physical well-being of her children. Further, it is unclear from the reports obtained by this investigator, whether or not VD has completed all requests made by TDPR. Additionally, this investigator has concerns about the validity of some of her statements, as she claimed that Wookie was attempting to reestablish the affair, when [color:"purple"]evidence suggests[/color] that she is the one who wants the affair to begin again.[/color]

[color:"blue"] Therefore this investigator requests that the Courts consider the following recommendations:

1. Wookie and VD should be named Joint Managing Conservators of the Minor children. Wookie should be given the right to establish the primary domicile of the children within (our) County.
2. VD should be given standard visitation per the Texas Family Code.
3. Wookie, Kim, and VD should attend Cooperative Parenting Sessions with the fee to be paid by Wookie.
4. The parties should be consciously aware of how their actions and words affect the relationship betweed the children and the other parent. Neither party shall participated in any type of alienation of the other parent and should monitor what is said to, and in the presence of, Leondra and Antonio.
5. A Parenting Coordinator should be appointed to this case to help ensure the emotional and physical well being of the children,t o manage any parenting disputes/issues that may arise, and to make recommendations regarding adjustments to the custody arrangements when deemed necessary to protect any and all parties.
6. The parties should be bound by the Loving and Caring Order, and the Bill of Rights for Children in Divorce Actions.[/color]

Other stuff in the report:

[color:"blue"] Wookie is of the opinion that VD is not emotionally stable as he reported that she has attempted suicide in the past.

VD's response: she said she was with Wookie one evening when a glass broke and she accidentally cut her wrist.

Findings from WGL: In regards to Wookie's concerns, this investigator does not believe that VD is a bad mother, but that due to limited resources and the number of children in the home, she is clearly having some difficulties. Furthermore, this investigator is concerned that due to the number of children in the home and the fact that she is not recieving child support for her four eldest daughters she is having difficulty providing for them. However, it does appear that she is attempting to improve her family situation by going to school and therefore increasing her ability to be gainfully employed. This investigator shares Wookie's concern regarding the physical wellbeing of the children as there has been TDPRS involvement in the past, Further, VD seemed to make excuses for the continued promblem of head lice. Additionally, Wookie provided police reports that seem to confirm his concerns regarding violence. Regarding the suicide attempt this investigator is concerned that VD possibly harmed herself intentionally with no thought to the welfare of her children. WHile VD seemed to dismiss this incident as an accident, the boyfriend substantiated the claim.

VD's concerns: How Kim and Kim's family treats Leondra and Antonio since they are not her biological children. Wookie is too strict.

Wookie's response: Kim loves Leondra and Antonio. Furthermore, he said that Kim's family does not blame the children and treats them like family - always sending cards and presents.

WGL findings: This investigator does not believe that there is a lack of love or affection between Kim and the chidren. Additionally, this investigator does not view Wookie's parenting style as harmful, but as an effective means for setting boundries and protecting the children. [/color]

Other stuff: One of VD's references said Wookie is a good father. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

VD says that Wookie is a workaholic....SNORT!

She said he never tried to break it off with her....SNORT!

We do not have a criminal history...both her and her boyfriend do.

VD is listed in the TDPRS database as a perpetrator of child abuse/neglect.

The report listed stuff in the kids rooms at both houses. Our lists are beds for each child, books, bookshelves, dressers, TV, CD players, toys, dolls and crayons/color books, posters on the walls. Her list consists of 1 bed in each of their room that they share with an older sister, TV and stereo. - THAT'S IT!

VD said that if Wookie had Antonio and Leondra or if he would pay more child support (for daycare) it would be easier for her to work in the evenings.

(snort)

"VD reported that the most important value she wants to teach the children is to live their life doing what you do best and to never have any regrets. Additionally, she stated that she wants them to love everyone and to "do what you want as long as it's legal and don't ever hurt anyone INTENTIONALLY."

(so it's okay to hurt someone as long as you don't know you hurt someone? -- idiot)

- Kimmy


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Woo hoo! Thank you SO much!!!! You have made my day! When do you get to move them in permanently?

"VD reported that the most important value she wants to teach the children is to live their life doing what you do best and to never have any regrets. Additionally, she stated that she wants them to love everyone and to "do what you want as long as it's legal and don't ever hurt anyone INTENTIONALLY."

ROFL! Well, I guess VD lives by her values. As Dr Phil would say, "How's that working for you?"

I'm assuming that she doesn't have to pay child support.


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That is SOOOO wonderful! Congrads! I'm so happy for you and Wookie! WOW!

It really is a great day! LOL


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GREAT NEWS! Congrats!


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Woo hoo! Thank you SO much!!!! You have made my day! When do you get to move them in permanently?

"VD reported that the most important value she wants to teach the children is to live their life doing what you do best and to never have any regrets. Additionally, she stated that she wants them to love everyone and to "do what you want as long as it's legal and don't ever hurt anyone INTENTIONALLY."

ROFL! Well, I guess VD lives by her values. As Dr Phil would say, "How's that working for you?"

I'm assuming that she doesn't have to pay child support.

She WILL have to pay CS.

We still have one more court date at the end of Sept for the judge to rule, but our lawyer says 90% of the time the judge goes with the "professional" suggestion.

She hasn't recieved her copy yet, nor does she have a lawyer. I wonder if it'd make a difference if she got one now??

Does anyone know?

Thanks everyone....we went out and blew our diets last night on kid food in celebration (pizza, pop and dessert!)!

- Kimmy


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Yay for Kimmy!

And all of Kimmy's children!


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"An ethical man knows it is wrong to cheat on his wife. A moral man will not actually do it." ~ Ducky

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I'm surprised the state worker hasn't had a lawyer appointed to her yet. She is on state financial assistance, right Kimmy?

On another note, have you made any of your killer enchilada's lately? I am still making your sauce.

How did your MIL make fry bread? Do you know?

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I make enchiladas about once a month...we're die-ing...I mean dieting...I made King Ranch Chicken recently...that's always a crowd pleaser!

I don't know what fry bread is....tell me Weav....

As far as VD and state assistance, she said she checked with them...but I don't know if she really did or not. She had a lawyer when she was arrested for pounding on that cop, but never paid up on it...I'm wondering if she's not on some kind of "this person doesn't pay for services rendered" list.


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A friend of mine tried (with no success) to get custody of his son from a very unfit drug addict mother who was on state welfare and she was appointed a lawyer (no cost to her). That's why I asked.

Things might be different in your state, and things might have changed around here as well.

Fry bread to my family is bread without any yeast...just flour, milk or water, salt and baking powder...fried in oil in a flat cast iron pan and drizzled with honey.

I always think mine tastes a little funny, so wondered what ratio you used with the ingredients.

SS might make it out campouts using powdered milk. I'll ask him.

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I can't imagine that her child support will be set high. But I bet her head explodes when she finds out she has to pay it.


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Kimmy

Do you have your hands full or what? 16,9,6,3, and 2, Wow! How fun?

YS, 4, was in the restaurant last night dancing by the jukebox! You should have heard the laughter! He was singing too! LOL


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Just don't DON'T let him watch Grease 2. You'll get the Re-PRO-Duction song sung in line at the grocery store.

I woulda sunk into the floor if it woulda let me!

I guess my hands are full. But my heart is fuller!


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Oh, Dobie, her CS should be set at around $147 a month. Considering that she has no income whatsoever, I don't expect we'll see a dime.


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Congrats!

I know you would have had things go differently - 4 or 5 years ago - but I hope EVERYONE can begin healing now. Especially those babies.

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OMG...That's so grreat to hear! I can imagine...the little one was singing "Don't phunk with my heart!" when we walked in the house. H had to ask me what he said...thought YS had cursed...I laughed at H and told him not to worry...It was funny to see H's face!


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Bumped for SS cos I know he wants to know!

SS - homemade pot pie and smashed taters for dinner.

You and your brood have an open invite.


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For some reason I'm getting hungry.

SS sniffs the air....

Hmmm, can't smell anything.

Have visions of Homemade pot pie, and smashed taters though. Where do these cravings come from?

Kimmy,
I sooooooooooo hope this works for you guys.

Prayers continue.

SS


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Hiya Kimmy. Well done.

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((((((((((GC)))))))))))))

Only because of you lovely people who supported me and listened to me and counciled me and gave me shoulders to cry on.


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...not to mention campfires and circus p-nuts


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