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I searched the New Ulm, MN obituaries and didn't see anyone named Robert who recently passed away.

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Robert was killed in a car accident 2 weeks ago


should be easy to verify

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Like Jim noted, there is no obit in the New Ulm Journal for a Robert Culver. It is probably a lie.


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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Anyone check the WS Weekly? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Maybe Robert isn't real 1st name. There maybe credibility to the story and if so that's sad for many reasons.

If it isn't, it is even more sad that a WS has to resort to creating horrible fantasy. With what purpose?

We all know there is no logic in the mind of a WS. So IMHO, the best thing is to do like we do to most WS stories that are highly questionable..... let it go.

str8jktmn and family, if a death has occured in your family (i.e. to the original poster from MB), please accept my condolences.

To Stacy: My condelences go to you personally for the sad life you are now living as a result of your choices. Even if 'Robert' is no longer suffering, U R. Now it is your choice to continue to suffer or straighten out your life so you can move forward.

Either way, your choices will not hurt str8jktmn anymore. As for us, you can't hurt us either so the pain you have remains with you.

Hope you learn to move forward.

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Hey Orchid, according to my detective work, that is his real first name. He and Stacy are listed in the book there. He is not in the obits or listed at the coroners office or MN Vital statistics. I think this very sick individual made this all up to get a rise out of folks.


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Hey Orchid, according to my detective work, that is his real first name. He and Stacy are listed in the book there. He is not in the obits or listed at the coroners office or MN Vital statistics. I think this very sick individual made this all up to get a rise out of folks.

Ok, but it's not workin, is it?

So another mothership plot....foiled agin..When will they ever learn? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Oh yea, never. RE: can't teach a ws. So we just watch 'em continue fools out of themselves. :gein:

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<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> This is probably the most appalled I have been since the day I learned of the affair. Please, allow me to clear the air.

The reports of my untimely departure from this earth are completely inaccurate. I am alive, kicking, and still fighting the good fight.

I haven't had internet access for about 2 months, nor have I been able to get anywhere to attain access. As far as who posted here, I haven't a clue. Yes, Stacy does have access to every account and password of mine. I tell them to her because I have nothing to hide. But, I can assure you that she did not come on this site and post this false death announcement, purely for the fact that, to my supreme disappointment, she would never even consider looking at this site. She still treats anything that would resemble a suggestion that divorce is not the answer as a vampire would treat holy water.

My best guess is that she passed on my information to one of her friends, and they have been very busy lately. The evidence can be seen at http://bashmyex.com/articles/200.html .

Read the title of the article. To my dismay, that was written when Stacy and I have been married 10 years. The facts are so distorted there. I feel one of the main posters, besides Stacy posting there today, is a friend of hers that is herself guilty of adultery, and has been advising/advocating her on her present self-destructive course of action. The facts of our life together are so twisted, it almost sickens me except for the fact that they are so ludicrous they're funny.

You guys know my writing patterns, therefore you know me. You can plainly see that the things on that awful site are not my words and everything that I have written on this site is the truth, all of which has entered Dr. Bill's ears. I have nothing to hide from anyone.

It is sad that Stacy had to react to that site's flawed information in such a way, but she has been guilty our whole marriage of twisting things to rationalize her own misdeeds.

I will be posting a reply to that site to clear the air and hopefully sting some people who put their two cents worth in in a harmful, hateful, deceptive way.

I suggest anyone who appreciates my eloquence with words to view my reply, which is in process as we speak.

I do truly wish to apologize for the lie that was told here, and the crass manor in which they tried to bring sorrow into you lives.


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Now that you have internet access, will you continue to post here?

You were missed.

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Well there certainly is a diverse picture being painted between you being such a perfect person that Dr. Harley says everyone should be like and Stacy's (and friends') POV that you are a jobless alcoholic wife abuser (arrested) (beating a pregnant woman too). Of course, if what Stacy says is true, it should be a matter of public record. I don't know dude. I'll be honest. Right now I'm not sure who is rewriting the history here.

Since apparently countless people have access to your password here, maybe you should change it.

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Before I could post a reply, things started getting ugly and I received threatening calls and then the bash was removed. Some rickety bridges were forever burned because of someone's attempts at defamation.

By the way, yes, I am back.


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and then the bash was removed

From what I saw, the "bash" was yours to begin with so, if anyone removed it, it must have been you that removed it. What is it that you don't want people to see? If it is not true, why would you feel the need to hide it?

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Before I could post a reply, things started getting ugly and I received threatening calls and then the bash was removed. Some rickety bridges were forever burned because of someone's attempts at defamation.

By the way, yes, I am back.

Threatening calls? From who!??!?!? Expsoure is the key...remember?

Btw, glad u r back. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

So Stacy have that kind of friends? Hm.... must be the full-timer's from the mothership. That would mean she is still entrenched in their grasp.

That stunt was almost as stupid as that astronaut. Same category. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> Wonder how long they had to ponder before they got stupid enough to post a lie like that?!?!? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> ..... sure was a wasted thing since most didn't believe it anyways. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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So you are saying that what was said about your interest in pornography, your arrest for spousal abuse and your job history are all fabrications made by your wife and her friends because they are all mentally ill? I get it now.

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I find it all a bit strange that you have not had any internet access what-so-ever for 2 months.
Your last post on 10/21/06
On 02/04/07 someone accesses your account to write of your untimely death and .....
2 days later 02/06/07 you magically appear from whatever you.ve been to counter their claim.

Appears quite strange to me. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

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Str8jktmn,

Change your user name.

Remove your name from your account information.

Change your password.

Do NOT invite the WS to this site, as I have almost NEVER seen good come from the action of them engaging in this forum while still in the midst of ACTIVELY being wayward.

What they do is disarm all of your MB’ing plans by thwarting your efforts to influence their behavior and find ownership in their choices. It’s that simple.

Protect yourself to the fullest extent possible by seeking an attorney.

Fight for your children.

Start using the carrot and the stick. In your case a cane may be more appropriate.

If you need to talk send an IM to my yahoo ID.

It is my opinion that you should remove the post from the other site if possible. Any possible good that could have transpired there has already occurred, now all that left is bookoo DJ’s.

I know you are in immense pain, but you are going to have to control it and keep your mind FOCUSED on objectives. It’s something that all of us BS’s have had to learn to do.


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Strange? Not hardly. I went from posting on this site to speaking exclusively with Dr. Bill, then to having no access. After I regained access, I find all the crap that has been happening "on my behalf". I did not remove the post, after the threatening phone call from her best friend, I informed her and her friend that I was typing a reply. This site was brought to my attention by my wife anyway; I had no idea or real connections with it until yesterday. Here is the reply that I copied to notepad before the post was removed so I could not set the record straight. Remember, I have said this time and time again; I have nothing to hide from anyone.

The reply:
Red flag - "After 8 years of marriage and 3 children"
Check the date of the post. It says Dec 7, 2006. That would put me and Stacy being married 10 years. Something is going on here. I did not have internet access at the time this was posted, nor did I ever get out to go where there was internet access. I spend my spare time with my children. This post was also entered when I was at work. I did not have access or authorization to a company computer.

I was abusive toward her at one time. She gave me a choice and I made the right decision. To this day, I have not touched her in anger from the moment I decided that they were more important than booze. AND I NEVER BEAT HER. In the finale of my drinking days, I bit her on the arm and I put my hand around her throat. I never struck or hit her. She always did the hitting or kicking, and I NEVER retaliated physically. The day I made my decision to stop abusing her and stop drinking ended that dark chapter in the way I treated her. I do not drink, and as someone who witnessed my mother being beaten, was shocked by my own actions when I realized that I was headed that way with Stacy, but I listened to her and my Grandmother and cleaned up.

Oh, and by the way, death threats are fun, but immature. Don't talk about others, then get upset at the thought of someone bringing you up. I am not going to let kid's games upset me. I am bigger than that.

Now. Let's address the employment thing. Stacy ought to be able to truthfully back me up on this. Fired from DuFresne after not showing up to work because I could not get the sitter to wake up, so I stayed home with the kids. Fired from Cambria and Pro Fab due to attendance problems stemming from transportation issues. That's it. Tenere was a layoff, and after two summers in a row Stacy suggested I enroll in school, so I did. I worked there 4 years. Wyoming Machine, 4 years. La Calhene, 3 years. It has been just in the past two years have I had the issues with employment. Year A Round closed it's doors. I am employed. I don't wish to or try to get unemployed. The only reason I left a job on my own since Wyoming Machine(1995 start) was for an increase in pay. Anyone would do that.

I have not tampered with any vehicle that belongs to Stacy or anyone else, and I offered to take a polygraph to prove it. Stacy declined. You see, the things that would prove me right on anything she has avoided. That's part of irrational rationalization to try and justify what has been happening.

Oh, and I apologize if I use big words. I can't help it if I understand them and know how to use them.I don't appreciate anyone speaking "down" to me, so I don't do it to others. If you can't keep up, stop reading.

Here's something else Stacy should be able to confirm; I admit my mistakes and once evident, I went above and beyond and gave 1000% to correct my mistakes and heal the hurt I may have caused. Let me once again make one thing perfectly clear; I love Stacy. I love my children. So much so that I have done away with the unimportant pursuits in my life and focused on what SHOULD BE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN EVERYONE'S LIFE, more important that friendship, more important than independence, a little something we all call FAMILY. No one can take away from me the fact that I would gladly give all to Stacy and our children, nor will anyone get a receptive ear from me when they say to move on. I may be in a dreamworld, but the center of that dreamworld is succeeding at the two most important promises a person can make; marriage and parenthood. I have not and will not forget the commitment I made and what I gave Stacy when we married, even though she may have dismissed hers. And, for those who doubt me as a parent; ****** you. I gladly spend every second I have to spend with my children. As far as I am concerned, FRIENDS come and go, and you can bet your bottom dollar they will, but family is forever.

Those that bash me or anyone else for that matter, have too much time on their hands. This post was not made by me. I never paid any money to this site. Financial records will prove it. My best guess is that it was made by someone that has a vested interest in seeing Stacy and my marriage fail. I know that doing anything to hurt Stacy will not bring us anywhere near recovering from this mess. It is apparent to me that there is someone out there who will stop at nothing to sabotage any peace or common ground that Stacy and I may find. Whoever you are, find yourself another project. The defamation and lies and twisted details that are being peddled are hurting more than just your intended target.

The facts here are not accurate. Furthermore, I know better than to do something this stupid, because I love Stacy and do not want to do anything that would hurt the chances of us recovering from this mess we are in. I am not going to stop trying to work things out with her, even though there are those that want to destroy any chance we have by lies, twisted facts, and bad advice.


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I was abusive toward her at one time. She gave me a choice and I made the right decision. To this day, I have not touched her in anger from the moment I decided that they were more important than booze. AND I NEVER BEAT HER. In the finale of my drinking days, I bit her on the arm and I put my hand around her throat. I never struck or hit her. She always did the hitting or kicking, and I NEVER retaliated physically. The day I made my decision to stop abusing her and stop drinking ended that dark chapter in the way I treated her. I do not drink, and as someone who witnessed my mother being beaten, was shocked by my own actions when I realized that I was headed that way with Stacy, but I listened to her and my Grandmother and cleaned up.

Oh, and by the way, death threats are fun, but immature. Don't talk about others, then get upset at the thought of someone bringing you up. I am not going to let kid's games upset me. I am bigger than that.

Now. Let's address the employment thing. Stacy ought to be able to truthfully back me up on this. Fired from DuFresne after not showing up to work because I could not get the sitter to wake up, so I stayed home with the kids. Fired from Cambria and Pro Fab due to attendance problems stemming from transportation issues. That's it. Tenere was a layoff, and after two summers in a row Stacy suggested I enroll in school, so I did. I worked there 4 years. Wyoming Machine, 4 years. La Calhene, 3 years. It has been just in the past two years have I had the issues with employment. Year A Round closed it's doors. I am employed. I don't wish to or try to get unemployed. The only reason I left a job on my own since Wyoming Machine(1995 start) was for an increase in pay. Anyone would do that.

I have not tampered with any vehicle that belongs to Stacy or anyone else, and I offered to take a polygraph to prove it. Stacy declined. You see, the things that would prove me right on anything she has avoided. That's part of irrational rationalization to try and justify what has been happening.

Oh, and I apologize if I use big words. I can't help it if I understand them and know how to use them.I don't appreciate anyone speaking "down" to me, so I don't do it to others. If you can't keep up, stop reading.

Here's something else Stacy should be able to confirm; I admit my mistakes and once evident, I went above and beyond and gave 1000% to correct my mistakes and heal the hurt I may have caused. Let me once again make one thing perfectly clear; I love Stacy. I love my children. So much so that I have done away with the unimportant pursuits in my life and focused on what SHOULD BE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN EVERYONE'S LIFE, more important that friendship, more important than independence, a little something we all call FAMILY. No one can take away from me the fact that I would gladly give all to Stacy and our children, nor will anyone get a receptive ear from me when they say to move on. I may be in a dreamworld, but the center of that dreamworld is succeeding at the two most important promises a person can make; marriage and parenthood. I have not and will not forget the commitment I made and what I gave Stacy when we married, even though she may have dismissed hers. And, for those who doubt me as a parent; ****** you. I gladly spend every second I have to spend with my children. As far as I am concerned, FRIENDS come and go, and you can bet your bottom dollar they will, but family is forever.

Those that bash me or anyone else for that matter, have too much time on their hands. This post was not made by me. I never paid any money to this site. Financial records will prove it. My best guess is that it was made by someone that has a vested interest in seeing Stacy and my marriage fail. I know that doing anything to hurt Stacy will not bring us anywhere near recovering from this mess. It is apparent to me that there is someone out there who will stop at nothing to sabotage any peace or common ground that Stacy and I may find. Whoever you are, find yourself another project. The defamation and lies and twisted details that are being peddled are hurting more than just your intended target.

The facts here are not accurate. Furthermore, I know better than to do something this stupid, because I love Stacy and do not want to do anything that would hurt the chances of us recovering from this mess we are in. I am not going to stop trying to work things out with her, even though there are those that want to destroy any chance we have by lies, twisted facts, and bad advice.


So except for the issue of whether or not you caused her bruises which you and Stacy cannot seem to agree on, everything that was said on that Bash seems pretty accurate. OTOH, if you were drinking that much, would you really remember? Sorry I didn't read all of your post. It's just that those big words confuse me so much. Or should I have said "I'm sarie"? Phonetics and all.

You say some people have too much time on their hands. Partly true. Unfortunately many good people here don't have enough time to truly waste it. It is always better to know all the facts to help understand the situation. Until now, you have hardly been open about your sitch and you still seem to be in denial about much of it. Do you deny the pornography too? Not that it matters much to me but you might as well lay it all out on the table.

I was thinking of places that have no internet access and suddenly one came to mind.

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I don't remember anyone accusing me of being addicted to porn. The OM is. I have never had an affinity for such material. I have always felt that looking at porn is just as bad as looking at another woman lustfully(which is mental adultery). I pride myself in considering my wife as the only woman in the world(for me anyway), and not even giving another woman's attractiveness a second thought since I met Stacy.

"I was thinking of places that have no internet access and suddenly one came to mind." Be more specific.

No disagreement on bruises. I know that I caused marks on her, however, that was 8 years ago. Not once since have I touched her in anger.


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Would you mind indulging me for a minute? I have a reason for asking.

In regard to MS:
Are you, by any chance, from W, between H.S. and A., which is the next town before you get to O?

Just a yes or no will do.


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I have no idea whether you are into porn or not. I'm just going by what was on that now deleted thread which said you were. It does seem a bit odd that you get fired for showing up late for work because you couldn't get a babysitter. Maybe one boss would be such an AH but multiple bosses? Your story reminds me a lot of my long dead stepfather who could never keep a job. It was never his fault either. He was also an alcoholic and also abused my mother and the rest of us. The poor guy - he was such a victim.

BTW, for interested users of MB, some threads I find are worth keeping in case they are deleted later or you just want to refer to them from time to time. A way to do that is open a thread. If it is a multiple page thread (like this one) click the (show all) button at the top or bottom of the thread. In the browser's menu, click File and Save As... and save it as a web page to your hard disk.

Also, if you have email notification activated in your profile and at the bottom of the thread you are interested click the "Favorite Topic! (toggle)", you will get new posts sent direct to your email. All you will get is an original post - you will not get edits of posts that are done later. I also find this very useful.

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Seems like your glass is half empty, and the kool aid that is there is unsweetened.

That was after repeated tardiness due to childcare problems, WHICH WAS MY FAULT for not finding more reliable options.

I let what was going on emotionally in my life take over, and my life went to shambles. Remember, once again, I admit what I have done wrong and have taken every step possible to change me and how I do things to make myself a better person for the man upstairs, my kids, and my wife.

Don't rush in that application to the supreme court just yet. From the second you added your input to this post, it has been judgmental. This site is about support and advice, not being dissected, Dr. Harley has done that for me.

Don't judge me, but when you do make a statement about me, make sure close attention is paid to what is read, instead of being selective. Use the male, fact driven basis for arriving at an assumption, so that it isn't an assumption, but an informed viewpoint. Opinions are like AH's, but a well thought out, researched opinion will get respect from many more than an assumption any day.

I face judgment every day from God and persecution from that one friend of my wife's everyday, so I don't need any more; my tank is full.

Oh, and by the way, my wife wanted to talk to me about that bash, and was apologetic about the inappropriate thing she said to/about me, and when I asked her to back up the claims of hers that did not mesh with what she told Dr. Harley(fabricated/exaggerated/embellished), she had no reply, just that deer in the headlights look.

Yes, I am a victim. A victim of my own doing. Not living my life the way I should is what victimized me.

She also said that she never wanted this to happen(the affair, the split up). I wanted to believe her, but the only thing that ran through my mind was: But you did it anyway. I wanted to say it but I didn't. Should I feel guilty as I do for wanting to say that?

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