It didn't feel very sexual to me. As I've posted before, I hated the lap dances. blech.



You remember that kick in the stomach you felt when you found out your spouse was cheating? Imagine receiving a fax at work from your husband saying "get your stuff out of the house I want a divorce" out of the clear blue sky. It was the exact same kick in the stomach.


I'm going to agree to disagree with you on this. I have always been the same person. I just learned to make better choices. Foremost I am a survivor, and always will be.

Thank you 10swords! I loved reading this statement this morning.

Smartcookie! Good to see you posting, it is always nice to read your take on things.

Suzette, good to see you sticking up for yourself as well (even though I am clueless as to what in the heck is going on and didn't read your departure thread...glad you didn't let anything or one chase you away!)

I used to work in a bar where we alternated nights between male and female strippers/dancers and what always saddened me was that the female's never seemed to be able to handle the lifestyle they had chosen. They would come in and proceed to get drunk/drugged half out of their minds before their shows would even begin. They always seemed to me to be a lost, sad mess.

The males on the other hand came in, did their stuff, collected their money and left without even one drink or trip to the bar. All business, the guys were.

I always felt sorry for the girls, knowing it was their choice.

We see things based on our experiences.

i always looked at it the way you....IF the spouse dosn't know anything about it.
i know a few people (int he philly, ironically) who work in the business....they seem to have no problem w/ their SO's frequenting strip clubs for lap dances etc.....i guess that is a different situation...but, i hate the idea of married people snneking off for a lap dance etc.
and yes, i do consider that a form of cheating and the stripper soem form of prostitute....but, prostitution is legal in some states so i am not judging her......who knows what she is after.
could be just the money....but maybe it is more.
i will say that most (maybe all)strippers i have met or know of are pretty screwed-up.

smartcookie... if you choose to phrase your questions in a less leading way I will be happy to answer them.

Heck I consider working at hooters prostitution.

Anyone is welcome to split hairs according to their own perspective of course.

Blow jobs but no intercourse?

Look but don't touch?

Lap dance but incomplete nudity?

Phone sex hotline?

Complete nudity but behind glass?

Chicken and fries with a side of tits and @ss?

If you are selling sex you are prostituting. I define sex pretty broadly.

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

agreed

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I agree with noodle too, but I place the blame on the consumers.

No one would sell sex if there were no buyers.

I do not see the world as you do. I am NEVER a neutral friend. I have shared values with the people in my life. In fact, I can tell you that I ended a 15 year friendship with the man that was my best man because he was cheating on his wife and refused to stop. I told her and took that stand. Neutral is naive in my opinion. And what you see as a DJ, I see as calling a spade a spade.
I never condemned my friends character... where did I do that? But I will not sit back and watch this either... he has children and our families are very involved with one another. Sorry, but SHE is not going around my child. And if he can't get off his mid life crisis butt and start acting like a responsible parent... well, then tough decisions will need to be made.

agreed.... but that does not excuse the behavior of these women or their employers. Do drug dealers take some blame or is it all on the user?

EXACTLY! As I've said earlier, people who decide to buy whatever form of sex make the CHOICE to do so and are no victims who get "targeted" IMO. Although the sellers is to blame too for their wrong & immoral behavior, married people who actually expose themselves to it and make that choice (the "buyers" of the sex) behave much more “scummy” than the "sellers" of the sex IMO because it’s the married "buyer" who’ve made vows in front of the altar and towards their spouse and decided to break that vows by cheating this way.

How about Marrying For Economic Stability?

IMHO... marrying for money is also prostitution.

Yep that too.

this is true....but, prostitution is legal in some states.
the prostitution part is not the part that makes my skin crawl...what bother me the most is the fact that married people are sneeking around behind their spouses back for sexual experiences......to me, that is cheating. and it is a shame that there are people who will prey on anybody willing to PAY for a service....but...it is ultimately that person's choice to 'cheat'... not the stripper or the prostitute or the girl next door.

Delilah's Den?
wasn't that the club that was on the HBO show....G-string Divas?
has anybody else ever seen that show?


i found it very interesting.

no, that was not the club in that series.

So, tell him how you feel and let him decide what he's going to do about it. I'm not sure there's ever a really "nice" way to effectively communicate a message like that to someone. My advice to you would be the shorter, more direct you are -- the more effective your message is likely to be.

As long as you're prepared for him to disagree and you can live with the results of that disagreement (what ever that means) then I think you're good to go.

Mys

thanks.
do you know what club it was?
i was pretty sure they said it was in philly.

i grew up in South Jersey....i have a childhood friend who is a stripper.she has worked in NJ and philly clubs...she atarted out at Hooters in Cherry Hill.
i know her well enough to know that her intentions are not honorable but her heart is good.

And with that, we can call Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson, etc protitutes, because that is what they sell, sex.

But let's don't get started on the sex being sold to our children by way of music and TV (I have a 12 yo DD). I bristle with anger and fear for our future generation just thinking about it.

Young girls trying to be like our current pop "stars" is pretty scary and sad.

Of course my BF likes nude art...statues and photos/paintings. Would the subjects of these be considered prostitutes as well?

Marilyn Monroe comes to mind.

yes, the club is called Daydreams... full nudity...residential area... great addition to the community! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />