OK, still no contact with OM's parents. Will keep trying tonight.

In the meantime, I tried to get WW to go out for coffee Friday night. She hesitated when I told her who would be keeping the kids (the friend I had lined up during the court date), saying she wasn't happy that she wasn't consulted about that to begin with - tough stuff I say, like I was consulted about not seeing the kids, putting DS6 in a different school, etc. Just more fog babble.

Anyway I was able to get her to agree to come over to the house again Friday night after the kids are in bed to talk about things. This will be where I bring up the list of things like Mr. W mentioned above:

Schedules
Kids School for next year
Financial
Clothing issues
Her job
Talk to SH
OM's Exposure

I'm a little concerned that if I do get in touch with OM's parents that this visit could get canceled, but it's worth the risk. Again, we can survive her anger but not the affair.

We also got really playful yesterday when I picked up the kids. We ended up having a water gun fight. That was a lot of fun and gave us a chance to laugh a little, something we have been getting the opportunity to do more of here lately.

Which reminds me of another thing WW said today - that she liked the way things now between us without all the anger. I said I have been waiting for her to get to that point with me for quite some time as she has been the one harboring all the anger. But reading between the lines, I think she means that likes that I seem to be more accepting of the situation which is far from being true.

OK, off to keep calling. Hopefully have an update later on.

see my other thread - I talked with OM's father but he is in denial.

Well WW and I had another good interaction yesterday. We talked on the phone for about 15 mins, joking and laughing about her poor sense of direction when it comes to driving - stuff we have laughed about in the past.

Times like that where the fog lifts are heart warming and give me hope, but I also sense that it could be her way of trying to make herself look good, to make me not think about all the anger and venom she has exhibited.

Still no obvious signs that she knows of the exposure, and we are still on for Friday night.

WEll, you are just on your way aren't you...sounding great and all...

I wish you the best...many blessing to come! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Maybe I sound great, but, just like you I am sure, I am still broken inside over all this.

I am normally an optimist, but I have to say that I have become more pessimistic as it relates to WW.

Plus I am soooo exhausted - this week has been very rough and I have been working until 1am most nights. Probably will be the same tonight so if anyone wants to chat I'll be up.

Oh, well, in that case I can relate...exhausted, long week...nervous, a little confused...LOL

Where did I need to relocate? LMAO Just joking...

Yesterday when I talked to my sponsor, she's out of town, I asked if she would go to court with me for moral support...

I sometimes wonder if WH changed and REALLY grew up would I take him back...right now, not a chance...

I still wish things were good between us, I mean really good...a team...I guess I'm still wishing for my illusion/dream to come true...

Guess I can hold on to the dream for the future...um...scared I'll end up with another bad one...

I know there's a good reason in here somewhere why I've had to walk through this valley, aside from my kids...they are a true blessing...I just can't see it right now...

OK, I am starting to get butterflies in the stomach about tonights upcoming discussions with WW. This is not what I want.

Ugh. I need something to settle my nerves.

I've got some Xanax in the medicine cabinet.

Go to Myrtle Beach, play some miniature golf, and eat some Calabash seafood.

That's what I would do.

Eph,

My dad told me once when I was REALLY REALLY nervous before an important event that he would be glad to wack me really hard on the head and then I would forget about those butterflies! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> He's such a great emotionally supportive guy, can't ya tell! Good heart, just not good on the practical side sometimes!

I KNOW you will do GREAT! You have been so very strong and admirable. Hang in there tonight. Lots of prayers coming your way!

Jim - -Do you have enough Xanax for the entire class?? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

OH!! better yet.

Go hang out at that Mexican themed amusement park on the border. SC and NC.

That's what you need. The view from the sombrero is magnificent!

South of the Border and Pedro <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

http://www.pedroland.com/

I am probably going to take the kids to the beach here soon for as few days. It's a bit far for a day trip.

WW agreed to a dinner together tonight at the house. - Takeout from her favorite Mexican place.

T-minus 5 mins until her arrival.

Excellento cilantro amigo!!!! Sounds cozy, yes we have been praying for this moment. Remember, whip out the candles& lite them!!! Praying it all goes salsa well!!!

Found this funny vc. Just in case you need a laugh!

Fainting.

http://www.womensfunnyvideos.com/videos/fainting.htm

Why are you nervous about speaking to her? I have noticed that you are VERY uncomfortable talkng to her and feel like you often to DEFEND and JUSTIFY yourself in verbal matches with her. Is this why you are nervous about speaking to her?

Very interesting night. She just left.

3.5 hours of talking, eating dinner, even let me play with her hair and massage her head since she was getting a headache.

And get this - a cop knocks on my door at 11:30 asking if WW is here and if she is OK. Said they got an anonymous call that she was only to have been here an hour and the person was concerned because they could not get in touch with her (she turned her cell phone off). WW says she never told anyone it would only be an hour.

Mel, it all has to do with confidence in myself and in my ability to convey my feelings in words. I have found I am much better at writing them than speaking them.

I need sleep and I need to digest all this, plus the GAL is making her in home visit tomorrow. I'll post more tomorrow.

Oh, great video sky <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Sounds like OM to me. He is probably flipping out because he feels like he is losing control of your WW. He probably feels that she is a little less sure of the action she's taking, and he probably wants to pull a little stunt after your exposure this week. I'm sure this will cause conflict between your WW and OM. Your WW probably turned off her cell because she didn't want OM to call you while you were there and he flipped out that she was still over at your place. Your plan A is working.

Jim...I had considered this likelihood and discussed it with Mrs. W. It's possible OM was nervous (as OP's inherently fear losing their married partner back to their spouses) we feel it's unlikely. OM's in particular feign superiority and confidence. It's more likely this is a product of the crap Mrs. Eph has fed OM over the last few years. She has told OM that she fears Eph and that he is violent, controlling and manipulative. Mrs. Eph has given OM the perception that he is saving her and she is the damsel in distress.

Thus...last night OM was worried about her safety. If he was just jealous he would have swallowed it until later when he did talk to her. He would have made her feel bad about it and give him a good affair fantasy fix of love and reassurance.



So Eph...did you go over the list or did you decide things were going so well to not bother????

Mr. Wondering

Yup, she's feeding OM a line of BS.

She seems to be able to lie w/o much effort.

Good job on meeting her needs.

Keep it up...Plan B is going to STUN her!

~ Marsh