Then of course, I can never forget, the paper that he left out for any and all to see while at an appointment one day.
"Borderline Personality Disorder".
Huh, could it be wifey has some issues? Don't know.

there is considerable overlap between personality disorders and clinicians tend to diagnose mixes of two or more. Grandiosity is a special case, but lack of empathy and exploitative interpersonal relations are not unique to NPD, nor is the need to be seen as special or unique. The differential diagnosis of NPD is made on the absence of specific gross behaviors. Borderline Personality Disorder has several conspicuous similarities to NPD, but BPD is characterized by self-injury and threatened or attempted suicide, whereas narcissists are rarely self-harming in this way. BPD may include psychotic breaks, and these are uncharacteristic of NPD but not unknown. The need for constant attention is also found in Histrionic Personality Disorder, but HPD and BPD are both strongly oriented towards relationships, whereas NPD is characterized by aloofness and avoidance of intimacy. Grandiosity is unique to NPD among personality disorders, but it is found in other psychiatric illnesses. Psychopaths display pathological narcissism, including grandiosity, but psychopathy is differentiated from NPD by psychopaths' willingness to use physical violence to get what they want, whereas narcissists rarely commit crimes; the narcissists I've known personally are, in fact, averse to physical contact with others, though they will occasionally strike out in an impulse of rage. It has been found that court-ordered psychotherapy for "http://www.mentalhealth.com/mag1/p5h-pe01.html" actually increases their recidivism rate; apparently treatment teaches psychopaths new ways to exploit other people. Bipolar illness also contains strong elements of grandiosity.

I'm with you on the dating issue AGG.

AGG, sounds like a good plan. You'll be sure to keep us updated on any calls from G. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Belonging2Myself: God that would have pissed me off! (referring you to wife) quick. Did you set him straight on this Issue?

B2M, using your son to get to you is despicable behavior. Sounds like your ex has some control issues. The unfortunate fact is when you have kids D ties you forever.

I have to wonder how may ex WWS feel guilt. From my perspective it looks like ex just feels relief & a sense of freedom. Nice to know the marital history has been sufficiently rewritten as to have all been drudgery & pain he's now free from.

Re: control issue... Isn't it weird that I feel it now much more than ever before when we were together?
The more I was getting free from him and our past together, the more he wants to know all about me and my doings (not related to our son at all)... and of course the more he objects anything I'm doing...
(Even re: Xmas lights (those small charming little little lights looking like little stars spilled on the grass) that I put in front of the house [/quote

If they after D and affair end alone and miserable, they feel sorry, but not for what they did to their X spouses, but what they did to - themselves. Guilt?

Never once asked me how work was, unless I happen to mention that I talked with a female co-worker, then I got the “20 questions”.

See, and you weren't aware that you just found a key to open her ears whenever you wanted to talk

I am so sorry to said, but you are right. These people will never take responsible for their actions (ie, choices) There is always someone else to be blame. You, the children, their parents or society as a whole! But never, never themselves!

No, That would just start (as one of many) the fighting, there was never any talking when dealing with her issues. Not just with me but with our oldest son.

But isn't it the same(?)/similar(?) with BSs, less or more...?
I.e. isn't it typical for any human being... for it is easier...?

They want me to entertain them so they have 'fun', and also can be very sexually demanding. (I thought that was our role??).