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I am not sure what your completely referring to. OM invited to have a discussion with me and he and I responded to each other several times, Never did he ask me not to respond to him. I still have the thread that was started after he said "if I thought you cared I would discuss it with you". So you can't harass someone that ask you to talk to them and looking at their myspace page is like walking down the street and yelling across the road and telling someone that is passing by hey don't look at me because I don't like you. Myspace is a public forum where people can freely view internet pages from around the world. I was informed that OM's friend posted on his myspace site the two IP addresses from NC. Those addresses are used to translate 100's if not 1000's of MY Company and non MY company computer addresses out to the internet. So he might see 1 or 2 IP addresses on his myspace site but it could be anyone in MY Company actually looking at that those publicly accessable and free sites. The process is called NAT (Network Address Translation) is commonly used to allow many user's to use one interenet address instead of wasting internet addresses spaces. So I am not the one necessarily looking at myspace, it could be any number of people that have heard of my situation and are concerned or just interested in seeing what type things I am having to worry about. You always told me that you could not respect me because of the things that I have done in the past, you said that I needed to repsect you as a woman, and that porn and strip clubs would be something you could not tolerate. I assume that goes along with our daughters being respected. In OM's last email he admitted and boasted about going to a topless bar the weekend you were sick with your kidney infection and he went skiing in upstate NY. He went on to say that he has human needs too and he has had lap dances and I assume other things in the past. So all I ask is that you hold the guys you hang out with to the same standard that you held me too around the girls. So I am concerned that the girls would be introduced to men that have less that repsectable past. No I don't want to control you but I have to look out for the best interest of the girls, they are gong to be pre-teen and teenager's soon and I would be worried about having some man oggling my daughters. We have seen each other only at exchanges and I have only talked to you about issues with the children, I only bring up issues seen with the kids and problems I have with the kids. Daughter is the one that told me that you are still talking to OM, Daughter is the one that told me that you had a 240 cell phone bill this month. Daughter is a very smart and aware young lady, if your so concerned about things you should start working on your relationship with your daughter. The girls will soon be at an age where they can decide where they want to live and how much interaction they want with either of us, I fear that your damaging that relationship with the girls. By the way I have my own server logs of OM looking at MY WEBSITE as late as the end of November and specifically of pictures of you and the girls and just the girls. Address: 69.122.216.189 Which is a cablevision address Bill
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WW Sent: Wed 12/20/2006 9:13 AM To: ME Cc: MY LAWYER; HER LAWYER Subject: harassment
BS, It has come to my attention that you are constantly monitoring and looking at OM friends myspace pages. They are asking for you to leave them alone. As is OM. I highly suggest you stop your harassment. And leave these people alone. And I am asking you to stop interfering in my life. If it has nothing to do with the girls you should not be involved. I am tired of this. You need to leave me alone and my friends. I am not interfering in your personal space give me some respect. You have not left me or my friends alone since march. You need to leave me alone. I cannot stress it enough. We need to agree that we need to be good parents to the girls and respect each other in that aspect. But your constant harrassment to me and my friends or anyone I talk to needs to stop. WW
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simple short answer would be -
From: VR Sent Thurs 12/21/2006 9:30 AM To: WW Cc: MY LAWYER; HER LAWYER Subject: harassment
WW,
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Up until now, the myspace pages have been two-way conversation where my responses have been requested - i.e. form of a question directed at me. I responded to a public internet forum.
Up until now, I have not been asked to refrain from viewing, responding or otherwise interacting on said pages by the owner of said pages.
This being said, since much of the content of the mentioned myspace pages have talked about casual sexual relationships, and this man is potentially going to be around my pre-teen and teenage daughters, it bore investigating the manner of man you are exposing her to.
Since my investigation is complete, and facts are now in evidence - and - a request for me to not view/respond, etc has been made via 3rd party - as soon as this clears with my lawyer as to protocol for the protection of my children, you may expect appropriate follow up.
Since this is the first contact regarding my actions on myspace being considered less than invited, there can be no charge of harassment at this point.
VR
Cafe Plan B link http://forum.marriagebuilders.com/ubbt/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2182650&page=1 The ? that made recovery possible: "Which lovebuster do I do the most that hurts the worst"? The statement that signaled my personal recovery and the turning point in our marriage recovery: "I don't need to be married that badly!" If you're interested in saving your relationship, you'll work on it when it's convenient. If you're committed, you'll accept no excuses.
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The levels of insanity never cease to amaze me!! I'm sorry if this is for real....
I would not even respond...at all..
I would also edit your post to remove that IP address if it is real...
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Ok, pursing lips here when reading the WS' e-mail. So here's my BS reply:
WW,
Not sure where you are getting things brought to your attention but if it from the same place that turned you into a WW, then it doesn't carry much credibility.
Here's some info straight from a straight and reliable source: Stop monitoring MY activity.
Limit your communication to only relevant issues: Children, $$ and mail (or whatever you deem important). If you can't even do that then go find a neutral 3rd party who can do your communicating for you. I am not interested in listening to your babble or dribble about who is saying what about whom. The OM and his clan can think what they want. I certainly hope he he still wears his pants and has not been forced into your realm of control.
NOTE: This is a reverse babble reply.
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Sorry, sounds like a load of baloney to me. There's no way OM or anyone else can sue for 'harassment' if you're simply going to their PUBLIC myspace site and reading what's there. Sheer empty threat to me.
They can ask you to no longer POST to them there...but even then...it's a PUBLIC forum...that they do not own or control. I don't see them having a lot of authority on your actions there as long as you're not violating the TOS.
Tell her to get bent. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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thanks for the positive feedback, just wanted to give you a glimpse into my insanity. So I figure her reasoning for the email is to build a case for a RO when we finish court now on Jan 11-12. Our separation trial will be a total of 3 days.. does that sound long?
Our LSA was rescinded but the judge ordered us to follow it until the trial is over, visitation an such. Since my little interaction's with her are still way more than she can handle she has tried to take away most of my xmas break with her. Well its the first xmas since our separation and the kids were looking forward to the week with me.... my WW handed me an early xmas present by trying and taking the kids away from me for xmas...
1) The kids even resent her more 2) Shows her to be a manipulating and controlling individual
The lawyer's already have taken care of it, I get the kids as much of not more now during xmas because of her stunt, and if because she needs to work whenever she works the kids have to stay with me. Today I got the kids for 10 hours instead of 5
Now during the first seating of our trial the judge orderd her if she works late (she a pharmacy tech at target) she needs to let the kids spend the night with me. For over 2 months 3 nights a week she was picking up our daughters at 9:30PM on school nights..... well the next week she informed met that she will not work late again, cut her hours back from 22 hours a week to 15 hours a week so to not have to comply to the judges order.... these are thing things I am having to deal with.
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I've got a bit of an off the wall question for you VR.
I saw the pictures you had of the horses. Were they for your DD's?
Do they still have / will have access to them?
If not how are your DD's taking this? / How are you handling this?
I am asking because my DD's absolutly adore their horses and a sitch with MIL has come up for us recently that may force our abandoning our farm and selling off our livestock. My DD's are heartbroken at the possibility that this may happen.
Stay Strong!
WTF
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so we had 4 horses I took 2, my daughters and a rescue that we have. THey are boared at the farm where my daughter takes lesson's so she still has access to them
The other two the ones that my wife is suppose to take care of are still at the house and just last week she tried to seel them on Horsetopia, she had 9 months to sell them but just the day before our first trial date did she try to do anything. Now I heard my wife say to a friend of ours that has horses that its really rough taking care of them by herelf... she barely feeds them and they go a week at a time with out hay... I took care of them for 2 years by myself with no one helping, even my daughter who just wanted to ride, but the victim of the WW is always present
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