I don't think this part should be included...



You don't want to give your WW a head's up that you intend to go for primary custody.

~ Marsh

Well its kinda late now as I have given approval for them to be sent. I read it, reread it and read it again and I didn't catch that. When I read it, I felt she would see it as she has a chance of losing custody and she may need to rethink this thing. Plus it may put something in the back of her mind "what if i do lose custody, is this worth it, is he worth it, am i willing to take a chance on losing D because of this, Do I really want this for my life and my D." That is where I looked at it from. But I know they will turn this but I will stick my ground and keep smiling and following Plan A and trusting God to deliver me from this nightmare.

Let them be mad. My stance is firm. I will smile and keep moving forward with my life and my lawyer. Up until now their Relationship has not been rocked. But I intend on making it hard as possible and opening eyes to this distructive A they are in. I hope I am taken seriously because I am. Its only just begun. Plan A in full effect and I am sticking to it and with help and guidance from God and my MB'ers friends, I WILL WIN MY WIFE BACK!!!!!!!!

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I just so confused and at a loss on what to do. I have turned this over to the Lord so his will can be done. I am so tired of being hurt and seeing my D hurt. I just can't deal with it anymore.


*** you worte that on 12-27-06****

Look how far you've come. You have a plan, a purpose and a new found fire in your belly.

Now that is what it will take you win this war.

Keep up the good work!!!

Usually, letting the WS know your plans to play hard ball in case she goes ahead w/ a D is a bad idea, especially when you're working a Plan A.

If she brings this up w/ you, you can tell her that you think your lawyer is a bit of a pitbull. And you might have to reign her in.

That way, she can assume that you aren't completely on board w/ her about primary custody, w/o your having to say it.

Just a thought.

~ Marsh

But that should be all the D talk you do w/ her. If she presses you to talk more about it, your mantra is, "I don't talk D only M."

~ Marsh

Just got off the phone with D and WW. D was screaming that she wanted to come with me but I told her she was staying with her M tonight. WW got on phone and I told her I had plans tonight and I would pick her up in the AM. WW said D was running across field coming here. I said why did you let her come? She said I should have not have called. I said I always call when I get off of work and that I would be getting in late tonight and probably not get to call. She said for me to deal with her because she was at my backdoor. She said that I caused all of this and I said well you are the parent to and I will talk to her and I let her in. D is demanding to stay with me and go where I am going. I talked with WW and she said to drop her off when I got ready to leave. I said OK and Told her my plans for tomorrow and asked if she wanted to go. She said UH No. I said ok just though you might want to join us but thats ok, and then I hung up.

The problem is that WW doesn't want D to be with her and now I feel guilty for taking her back. Should I cancel plans and keep her or should I stick to my guns, take her back and pick her up in the AM. I am on the rollercoaster. It makes me mad when WW will not even try to keep D with her and then blames it all on me. But I did keep my cool and didn't argue and said I would talk with D. What a guy to do?

Ok guys need help and need it Quick if you are here.

D does not want to go back to WW tonight. I have tried everything. I called WW and said I am trying to handle this as polite as I can. But I really need you to spend time with your D. She said quickly I have been. I said your need to ask her to stay with you and tell her you will spend time with her. She said quickly you have done this to her and hung up.

She Called back and D answered and she said has daddy been telling you I am a bad person. D said no. She asked D if she was mad at daddy. D said no I am mad at you and I want you to come home. WW says have you and Daddy been talking about that. D said no. Then W wanted me and told me that this was my fault and I am reaping what I sowed. I said I will not argue with you and just let me talk to her. She said well I told you you shouldn't be talking to her and telling her things, trying to fire me up. I said I know you are tyring to get me to fire back at you and argue but I will not do it and she hung up.

Cancel your plans.

Keep your DD w/ you.

She needs you.

~ Marsh

Good job keeping your cool.

She called back again and telling me how all the things I have did is what is causing D to do these things. I again stated I will not argue.

Then she said Heres what you need to do. Tell her you was wrong for saying M was a bad person and that M is not going to he)) and that she was the D and she had to respect our decision to do this and that she would be all right. I said I will not tell her that and she started hollering and I just hung up.

My problem is I feel guilty for taking her back over there because it is obvious that W don't want her tonight. I know am have asked forgiveness for some of the things I have said in front of her. But I was hurt and in pain. That is behind me now and I am moving forward. I just need help on what to do about tonight. I changed plans Monday because W would have rather been with OM but do I always do that. I need some advise.

Ok, you keep your DD tonight. It may suck to change your plans, but do it and document it (again)

Your wife is blaming you for this sitch with your DD. She knows why ALL this is happening, but is trying to put it on your head. You're doing good by keeping cool. See your wife thinks that you are puttng things in your DD head to make her mad at mom. Your ww can't/won't believe that it is her doing at all, hence "I am reaping what I sow."

It is not your fault and just fog talk form her.

So, keep your DD tonight, she is almost begging you to. You can't turn that down. Have a good time and go skiing Sat.

You are starting to pull away from ww and she will see this. It will play on her some, but she may not show or tell you that it does.

You're right, the past is behind you, you can't change it, you can only go forward.

And you will.

You are stronger now.

Go get your DD.

You shouldn't change your plans so that WW can go screw OM.

However, your DD should be your first priority.

Her welfare is most important.

~ Marsh

Called back again Trying to pick fight and I wouldn't bend. She said the damage is already done from talking so much in front of her. I said I know I did some things but I am turning from those things because it isn't right. I made it clear to her that I was turning from my wrongs. She said well you obviuosly have plans tonight so what are you going to do with her. I asked if she wanted to keep her and she said she would. I said but do you want to. she said well yeah I will. I said never mind. She said well what are you going to do with her. I said I will take care of her. and hung up. This is alot harder than I antisapated.

I have read here many times that the BS should take the kids any and every time the WS dosn't want them. Document it each time.

And should I answer the phone if she calls

Please take her for the night.

Something happened between them tonight and you need to be w/ her.

Do you have your DD?

What do you mean something happened between them?

answer and be as nice as you can on the phone. Your good, fun, not one to fight.

"Me and DD are going to.... and have a good time, I'll talk to you later - bye"


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