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John the Baptist did not get his head cut off for being morally neutral - he got it removed for being virtuous. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

(Herod and Herodias probably thought he was rude.)


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Rather, I guess my approach would be to not insulate someone to the point that they never see/experience anything that might be considered objectonable

What I am talking about is teaching children how to respond when they DO see/experience something that they consider objectionable...and every individual makes that choice for their own life - what they want to allow/disallow into their lives and the lives of their children.

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I hate for people to think that I'm all for throwing an innocent child at a drug dealer!

Okay. I did not assume that you were thinking that. Perhaps the boundary line of what you are willing to allow into your life or what a parent should allow into their child's life has a wider scope. You certainly have the right to choose that for yourself.


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But I am for children developing good moral standards through a combination of parental guidance and life experiences outside what their parents teach them.

And how do you propose parents teach that? What choice should a child make, as they get older, when they ARE faced with a moral dilemna?

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I just feel badly if the kids are really close because kids should not be made to suffer as a result of adults' bad choices.


I can see how you might arrive at that conclusion. At first glance it could look as though the children were being deprived of something and perhaps they are, but to what gain?

Every choice has consequences. You named one consequence - the children might lose their friends (and that's assuming that they decided to cut off ALL contact with J & J).

If that decision or the decision to limit contact is the choice that they make, based on what is best for their marriage, what do the children stand to gain from that? It seems like a much bigger benefit to have parents who offer the example of standing firmly and exercising actions that support and uphold their values.

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NS,

Only you know all the info regarding this couple and their state of "remorse" or lack thereof...

But here is an undeniable truth:
Proverbs 27:17
As iron sharpens iron,
so one man sharpens another.

Surround yourself with people who have the same goals/values/principles as you do. If your gut is saying no, I would go with that. God is in the "still small voice".

Respectfully, IHC


BW 35 (Me) WH 35 DS 11, DS 10, DD 10, DS 5, DS 3 Married 1994 Dday 7-9-06 Plan B started 12-24-06 Psalm 62:5 My soul wait only upon God and silently submit to Him; for my hope and expectation are from Him.
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hmmmmmm

another marraige between affair partners that seems to be successful

i wonder if there are lots more than the percentages show

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hmmmmmm

another marraige between affair partners that seems to be successful

i wonder if there are lots more than the percentages show

Please define "successful", Eav?


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so far the marriage has not broken up and i didn't read that there were problems between the H and W

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Think about it -- do you seriously think that every one your married friends was totally single (we're talking not married and not dating anyone) when they met their current spouse? I'd say the odds are pretty slim. Not married perhaps, but they may have been "cheating" on a BF/GF when they first starting seeing their current spouse.

Actually I didn't find out our neighbours and best friends were adulterors until he reverted to form and had an affair with my wife. The friendship of the children was one of the casualties of the affair.


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I have found that my tolerance for WS's has gone down pretty much to zero after what I went through. FWS's, different story. Several of my best friends are FWW's. I am proud to associate with them. But someone boldly flaunting their sin to the world is not someone I would want to associate with, at any cost.

Neak - could not have said this any better myself. Frankly I really love FWS's but just can't stomach WS's at all. Zero Tolerance.


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John the Baptist did not get his head cut off for being morally neutral - he got it removed for being virtuous. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

(Herod and Herodias probably thought he was rude.)

Oh my goodness Neak - I had forgotten about that pair. WOW. You are so right.


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Kind of a Kybosh on those who think affair marriages are actually real marriages biblically speaking!


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so far the marriage has not broken up and i didn't read that there were problems between the H and W

I know. It strikes a cold knife of fear into the heart of any BS every time this comes up.

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