I am, but I guess I am open to both. Eharmony does not let me pick a specific group, and they keep sending me NMNKWD women (that's "NMNK with dog"). Interestingly, I noted that not a single DWK woman specifies a dog as a "can't live without".



Well, that's part of it, the other part is those who will expect that my kids should be comparable to their dog in terms of how much time and effort they require.


Chemistry? What's that?

AGG

Nah, one of your Match matches will polish the rust right off - I have a hunch!


My plan is no steamy relationships till, oh, Dec 31 or so.

AGG

Ya think?? Now there's something to smile about!


Huh, that long eh? Now what is it they say about best laid plans?
I predict that one will come along and do the big sweep, well before next year arrives. But, if it's not until 12/31 or after, hope it's a nice steamy one!

K!

Funny and true IMO.

Early in 2005, I was seeing a woman who owned two dogs. I don't for a moment think that animals are unimportant. Although the relationship ended after several months for a few reasons, one of the most important in my mind was when she said to me "my dogs are more important than you" and when I was always forced to either sit in the back seat of her vehicle or have dogs, and thus dog hair, all over me in the front seat.

I spent 14 years in a marriage with a woman who alwsys put our children before me, and ****** will freeze over before I ever let any woman in my life let her pets take priority.

It's just not going to happen!!!

Mark

Sounds like I am now being matched up with her sisters <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />.

AGG

This has nothing to do with your dog question, but why does "settled" have to equal married with kids?

I don't think there's anything wrong with AGG preferring to date Mom's...he's a Dad <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> It's something in common, it defines who we are. AND I think it's weird (and pretty funny!!) that so many of his matches are crazy for their dogs, lolol.

It doesn't. I used the term merely as a figure of speech - you know, "settle down" usually means "start a family"? That's all, no deeper meaning.

AGG

I think to most people it means to start a family. To me it means to have qualities similar to the ones you listed as what you couldn't live without: responsible, dependable, stable, honest, etc.

I think a NMNK woman with those qualities would fit into your life better than a DWK woman without them.

A late answer to your question. People without children seem to attach themselves much more dramatically to their animal(s). Fiance treats his dog like a child - he bought a christmas gift for the dog. The kids' gift was called a "family" gift. He saved the cremation ashes and mounted a picture of his former dog. He had a fit when I almost discarded the box thinking it was dirt from some beach he had spent a vacation on with his ex and was still hanging onto...

Does that answer your question?

I who have children have some attachment to my dog but not to that extent...

V.

Today on Dr. Phil (once in a blue moon I have 5 min. for him), here is a couple, and the husband complaining about his wife and 'her R' with her dog... that is something like sunny's fiance with his dog... and more, the dog often sleeps with her... and she said to her hubby if she had to chose between two of them it'd be the dog...
They have a grown up daughter out of home

Dr. Phil's advice - dogs mark their territory, why don't you do the same? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

OK, so I have a coffee date for tomorrow with one of the dog women <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />... I'll let you know how it goes.

AGG

You go AGG!
Can't wait to hear about the hot-dog-woman!

K.

Hey Agg,

Hope you don't mind me jumping in here. Don't feel so bad, I went through the e-harmony test and at the end they told me there were no matches! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> I guess they don't even want me as a member! I personally don't like the e-harmony style because I feel it is too selective. If I knew who I wanted I'd be with him now! I don't like the idea of ruling out anyone. I like to keep an open mind. It may not be someone I'd ever put myself with but if I met him, I just might say to myself well what do you know, this is perfect! It's like trying new food. Just take one bite and see if you like it!

NMNK is a red flag for me. I automatically think player, commitment phobe, etc. Since I have a child, I think that would be a problem. There are still two parenting styles to mix, and one of them has no experience. Years of parenting come with a higher level of patience for childlike antics.

My pet peeve is the motorcycles. It seems like 80% of the guys in my area that post personals feature their motorcycle as their #1 feature. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> I don't care about your material possessions, I want to know what kind of person you are. I love my new car and I love taking drives but it wouldn't even enter my mind to post a photo of it on a personal ad saying "Let's go riding this weekend".

Oh well. Right now I'm still a browser. I don't pay for any service, I just look. I'm warming up to it a little bit though. I really just don't want to post pictures of myself on the internet. This may sound oldfashioned but I have a young son. It just doesn't seem appropriate that his mom would have her picture posted on Yahoo! with her innermost thoughts looking for "a special someone". A double standard? You bet. Hmmmm . . . . . I'm going to be single for a while aren't I?

I did have a date though. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> I met him at work (a contractor, doesn't work there) and he was sooooooo handsome I had trouble putting a sentence together in his presence. I giggled a lot. We had a fabulous time and he took me to the fanciest restaurant near us. We talked nonstop for 3 hours, had a lot in common (his wife left him for another man last year) and I didn't want the night to end. When he told me he likes to shop I thought I was going to take my clothes off right there on the spot (just kidding folks!) Lots of sparks. Turns out he was just in the dating around stage and had been dating someone else for a little while. The two of them are now exclusive. It's all good. He was really on the rebound anyway. But it did put a skip in my step for quite a while. That is until those dang family and date oriented holidays brought me down. Here's to 2007! I'm home free until Easter! Woo Hoo!

One more thing about the pets. I don't think anything is wrong with "can't live without my dog". I interpret it as being very attached to their pet. I think that is a healthy sign that they are a loving and caring person. Unless of course, they are squirreling away more clothes for their pet than Imelda Marcos has shoes.

But, I must admit it is a little bit of a turnoff when the guys post a bunch of pictures of their dogs or cats. I want to see pictures of YOU, not your cat Princess. It looks a bit neurotic to me.

Just my two cents.

I agree with the dog thing and you can throw in cats also.

I have found so many women, who have never married, and never had kids, are infatuated with their pets. I've had women cut short or refuse dates because Snoopy or Garfield needs to be feed, walked or just gets lonely.

I will not play 2nd fiddle to an animal.

I doubt that. It is more likely taken from the section where they type in what they must have in life.

I have to agree with AGG. There is a definite difference between a woman who has never married and/or had kids and one who has. They seem to have a different outlook on life. I do not know if that is a result of not having a spouse and children, or a cause of not having had a spouse or children.
But, there is a definate difference. What is it? I am not sure, but I will take a few educated shots at it.

1. They are to picky, overweighting a man's negatives as compared to his positives.

2. They are very independent and don't want to lose that independence. So, the self-fulfilling proficy goes into motion and they make sure they drive him away.

3. They do not trust. I have seen the look in their eyes at times when I make a perfectly innocent offer to give them a ride when their car is in the shop, or setup the new TIVO. The look says "what is your real intention?"

4. They have an inflated image of themselves. They think they are great athletes, marvelous cooks, world travelers, artistic mavens, and sexual super women. As a result, no mortal man (which we all are) can match them. None of us is worthy.

By the way, I am sure a lot of this also applies to men who are NMNK.

I can't speak for AGG, only myself. I make my judgments based upon what these women say and do. They allow their dog to jump all over me and chew on my shoes, they cancel dates because their neighbor can't leave work early enough to feed Snoopy, they tell me they always hike with their dog even when it limits the trails we can take.

Note, that in none of these cases would the animal have suffered (except for a few hours of temporary hunger at most) if the owner would have treated me as though I was a bit more important than the pet.

LOL shattered.I too would avoid anyone with a Harley, (NOT a Dr.Harley!).My ex had a really nice BMW motorcycle a long time ago and it was fun to go riding but not anymore,with my kids around.Too dangerous.

More negatives:

-tattoos of any sort( yuk)
-smokers
-drinkers(occasional ones ok)
-overweight/beer bellies(not looking for Adonis but just want someone fit)
-lives with parents <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />
-sports fanatic (think Fever Pitch)
-roving eyes
-womanizer
-past/present cheater
-needy: wants another "Mom" to take care of them or wants a maid <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

To name a few.




Ugh.That may be me one day.I have sorta high "standards"? shall we say.But I know what I want in a man and I would be willing to compromise on some things but if there's no match then I'd rather be alone.I enjoy it very much right now anyway.