The Tomcats are already gone. There is speculation that the Iranians are still flying them, but it cannot be confirmed.

The F-15 is still being flown by 6 countries and isn't going anywhere soon.

As to the new generation..heck, the international dateline defeated 6 F-22's when they were headed to Japan.

As to them being basically the same airframe..not really.
In addition to the interception role, the F-15 was designed for the visual range fight, dogfighting. This lesson came from the many encounters in Vietnam with the F-4 verses whatever. But even then, the Fighter Mafia thought it was too large, and thus the F-16 was born. But that boondoggle is for another discussion.

The F-14's primary role was interception. Though it can turn pretty good, it wasn't really designed with a sustained turning fight in mind, as was the Eagle. That is why the F-15's wing is so huge. They call it the flying tennis court.

That aside, both fighters do/did exceptionally well in their roles.

Holy crap...perfect example.

I hope that wasn't the fog my WW was spewing!

Jim

Fog is fog. They say one thing, which is what their perception of reality is. Anything to support their fantasy.

ok well save the email maybe some day it will make funny reading...

Jim

Well Having an interesting morning, for some darn reason I have the W stuck on my mind... You know, what is she doing this weekend, is she thinking of me, does she miss me, is she a WW or is she a Gone never coming back Ex-W...

Luckily it doesn't appear to be causing a lot of anxiety, just on my mind and I can't shake it... The trigger was a combo of the wedding Pic I sent Orchid , and a silver dodge Omni that looked like WW car...
Oh well..


Anyone else have days like this and how do you deal with them?

Jim

Most of us have had these kinds of days.

Sorry the pixes created a trigger but they were nice pixes.

How are the kids doing?

L.

I have many days like that. As the days go by I can control my reaction to those triggers. Or start associating those triggers with something else.

I have a HUGE trigger. The OW name is my DD middle name. Which is a VERY unusual name for a woman. At first I cried everytime I thought of my daughters name. Then I learned to ignore the fact that it was OW name, and focused only on my DD. After time it got easier.

I am not sure about the Kids havn't had a chance to sit and tlak to then, did see meg during the WW reconisance run last thursday, i got a big hug and kiss...

NP on ther trigge... might as well get used to it...
so what do you think of the new me?

Did you notice the diffrance in the W as well?

Jim

New U looks good. Old you didn't look bad either. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

From the looks, you don't look like you've taken a beating but you hide that well. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

The WS can be seen in her eyes but not as drastic as others (i.e. astronut WS). <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

Thanks for the pixes. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> You know we have an MB Photo thread going here somewhere. Post a pix when u r ready. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Take care,
L.

you see the ws in her eyes at xams? or at the Wedding or both? how do you see it? What are you looking for? what do you see?

I have to hear this... She was the one in the black sweeter...

Jim

Well exposure on OM2 worked and all indications that has ended... Now she has cued up another one.

I won't lift a hand to stop this one... let him have her, he is in for one ****** of a ride... Better him then me!

Jim

well lots of triggers today... pushing through it... Came accoss an old photo ablum of when we were first dating... you would not beleive the change, I didn't even see it until I saw her years ago and now... God she has changed so much...

jim

Well Dog takin your advice...
Pushing every trigger I can find hard today on purpose!
I need to drive through this Crap... work it out burn it out what ever! I am sick and tired of being sick and tired! I want my life back..

Hope you having a good day i have the grill warming, brats waiting and a pitcher of margerettas in the blender!...

GF not getting ripped just enjoying the first 80 degree day of the year...

Jim

Good day today seem to be re-surging... feel the coinfidance and self esteam coming back after last weeks kick... The Dark plan B getting easier... I am feeling stronger feel like I am heading back on an upswing...

Jim

having a rocky after noon for some reason... just feel all alone... why I don't know... well about 9 weeks to go and the count down continues...

Jim

9 weeks?, I got 50!!

I bet you didn't think anybody envied you didja.

Hang in there Jim, the rollercoaster doesn't last forever.

It won't be long before you'll be tubin down the lazy river, drinkin beer, peein without gettin outa the tube, makin bubbles, and just relaxin man.

Life get's better.

BC

Given a choice between havin the original W (not the WW) back and the D, I would perfer the original W...

I really don't what the D i want my W back (the original one)

If I can't have the original W, then the D is the only viable option, since the WW alien has took M original W and locked her in a closet somewhere... That and I am not kin to sharing...

Jim

Ahhh, given being the key word. Wouldn't you love to be given a choice. Seems like lately we're pretty much forced to make the decisions we have.

I like you don't want to have anything to do with my sitch. I want my family back together. I want my W back. Given a choice I would choose the same as you.

For some reason though, after being alone for 5 months now I've really accepted the sitch and have moved on and I like who I am these days and I fantasize about the future more than the past.

Like you said, I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired.

Oh and I was just trying to cheer you up earlier, hope you didn't take it the wrong way. I don't know if it's a defense mechanism, but I tend to use humor in everything. I've always been that way. I wouldn't mind trying stand up some day. I've even thought about taken a class on it and putting together a routine. I like to make people laugh. I seem to be pretty good at it.

Anyway, just sending some support and I don't know anything about jet fighters so I had to come up with something.

Later

np I know what you ment, I am trying to move on as well... As you said I wasn't really given a choice in the matter... I am doing ok most of the time. but I have my momnets too...

Jim