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Rosie was just putting her down this morning....

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I imagine this is totally heartbreaking to her parents. Their grandson dies. Then their daughter dies. Then, if paternity is ever established, they may lose the granddaughter if the father does not allow them to see her.

If they were caring parents, they were probably saddened to see the bizarreness of their daughter's choices.

As for the humongous inheritance from the ancient husband, it was eventually taken away from her by the courts. The husband's son who challenged the will died some time ago and her settlement was reduced to about 1/10th the original amount before even that was reduced. Apparently, some court gave the whole estate to the husband's other surviving son.

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I always assumed that it was her lawyer who was the father of the younger child - and her lawyer killed the older child to insure that the younger child would get all the inheritance. Probably at the same time, her lawyer, sweetly advised her not to have a paternity test - since that might make his play a little more obvious to others.

Knocking her off - leaves him and his little baby (snif snif) begging the courts to give them all the inheritance they are due. (Which he would control until the child was at least 21).

I'm sorry for the baby. I doubt that any of the players in this mess are fit to raise her.

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Guys - she was NOT married. She had some kind of ceremony with one of her boyfriends not long ago (I'm not even sure which one) but it was NOT legal and there was NO marriage license.

All the cable news outlets keep saying that her lawyer and sometime boyfriend Howard K. Stern (not the radio jock) was in the room with the son when he died and was also in the room with Anna when she died.

This is one sordid story. Her life was a train wreck from beginning to end. I just feel sorry for the baby.
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Why would her lawyer and sometime BF be together at such crucial times? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Something don't smell right.

Btw, the last time I saw her in an interview she talked like she was drugged up. She was not very coherent and her eyes were a bit glassy.

My radar says something is up with that HS guy.

I feel for the baby but not sure if those closest to her will really have her interest's at heart.

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Hmmm... couldn't be that she was on an anxiety med due to her sons death now could it?
And yes... the rumor that her lawyer killed the child must be right ... and he paid off the coroner...all to get their hands on her money. In fact her son was really not her son... and he really isn't dead...
Turns out that there are several of the posters here on MB... maybe even those blowing smoke on this thread that are truly responsible for this terrible hoax. It is all a publicity stunt for her diet company.
Yes... and that is why there are people on MB spreading these rumors....gossiping like bored house wives or teenage boys...it is all just a smoke screen. Really.... Anna is responsible for killing JFK and MLK and even JR from Dallas! The media has just bought this all hook line and sinker... now Anna is going to go through an autopsy just to make it all look real....
Forget the obvious issues surrounding this... they all must be a smoke screen...none of us have ever heard of a person that lived an unhealthy lifestyle dropping dead of a heart attack well before their prime....no way it could be diet meds (afetrall, THEY never killed anyone!)...and poor girl... no way she ever could have contemplated suicide after the death of her child... not a chance.... it is all just a smoke screen for the truth which can be found right here on MB...
But nobody turn your back... because the killers might be among us. Hmmm... I wonder if HS is a poster here?
Maybe Anna will tell us next week after she gets up from her autopsy.
Now everybody... back to your episodes of Jerry Springer!

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Hmmm... couldn't be that she was on an anxiety med due to her sons death now could it?
And yes... the rumor that her lawyer killed the child must be right ... and he paid off the coroner...all to get their hands on her money. In fact her son was really not her son... and he really isn't dead...
Turns out that there are several of the posters here on MB... maybe even those blowing smoke on this thread that are truly responsible for this terrible hoax. It is all a publicity stunt for her diet company.
Yes... and that is why there are people on MB spreading these rumors....gossiping like bored house wives or teenage boys...it is all just a smoke screen. Really.... Anna is responsible for killing JFK and MLK and even JR from Dallas! The media has just bought this all hook line and sinker... now Anna is going to go through an autopsy just to make it all look real....
Forget the obvious issues surrounding this... they all must be a smoke screen...none of us have ever heard of a person that lived an unhealthy lifestyle dropping dead of a heart attack well before their prime....no way it could be diet meds (afetrall, THEY never killed anyone!)...and poor girl... no way she ever could have contemplated suicide after the death of her child... not a chance.... it is all just a smoke screen for the truth which can be found right here on MB...
But nobody turn your back... because the killers might be among us. Hmmm... I wonder if HS is a poster here?
Maybe Anna will tell us next week after she gets up from her autopsy.
Now everybody... back to your episodes of Jerry Springer!

Wow, was that a vent or what?!?!?! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

Feel better now?

As for her death, it is a sad thing. Hope someone didn't make it happen. If not, how sad her lifestyle while it could have afforded her a healthy one, was probably the cause?!?!?!

Debatable or not, the fact is that she is dead. Sad indeed.

As for MB rumors..... like anywhere else, it is always a possibility.

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Why are you being so hard on us?


Because the throwing around of rumors that have no foundation are disrespectful. There as a comment about her sleeping with her own son and then an implication that she could have been murdered by someone that appears to love her.... why.... what was the basis for these claims or rumors? It's just sad.
I look at a person like her and wonder how bad her childhood must have been to allow her to enter, at such a young age, a terrible lifestyle. I see her mom running the TV circuit literally HOURS after her daughters death and appearing anything but sad.
I consider that her son just died an accidental death... someone her mischaracterized that too... and feel for her. I wonder if she was so distraught that her life had become unbearable.... or maybe she just died naturally. Even if I have a thought that perhaps someone close to her might have done something... I don't use tabloid tactics and run with it on a open forum without some merit to what I am saying.
It's a death...its very sad for the child.... just as her sons death was very hard for her. The types of things that were written here are better suited for the National Enquirer.
So yes, I guess it was a rant.
BTW, foul play has been ruled out. She has an enlarged heart... which may or may not be a cause of death... she had lots of prescription drugs in her room which may also play a part. And now she has a mom running down there to check on her grandchild... or should we say meal ticket.
Sad... very sad.

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And now she has a mom running down there to check on her grandchild... or should we say meal ticket.
Sad... very sad.


How is vilifying her mother any better than any other person speculating/discussing AN's life?

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Because it is based on observation and fact. The woman said last night on TV that .... when we needed money Anna didn't give us any! She also was laughing during the conversation and being disparaging towrads her daughter. In addition, it is also based on the fact that the mother has hired an attorney and clearly said she wants they grandchild home with them.... not the father... although the day before she said the child should be with the dad. She also stated without merit that she fears for the childs life... that the child is in danger...why... she couldn't give a reason.
It's called objective observation versus rumor spreading. In the police field it would be the difference between an eye witness and a "tell it down the line" witness.
Now if I had come on here and said her mom had Anna killed because she has a secret relationship with Anna's partner... that they will stand to inherit the money... blah, blah, blah... well, that would be what happened here. I based what I said on what I saw with my own two eyes. Not what someone else made up and passed down the line.

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So, what you're saying is that it's OK to vilify her mother b/c you watched snippits of video tapes, most likely taken out of context, and added all kinds of assumptions and DJ's to them so that you could interpret them to mean that she not only didn't care that her daughter had died, but that she also only wanted her granddaughter for the money she might inherit one day? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

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I wasn't a fan of hers, yet I felt sorry.

How much better her life might have been, had she remained an unknown. Maybe.

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Marsh... actually I watched much more than snippets. If you can't see the difference, I am not here to convince you of my position. You asked a question, I answered it. It is a far different to discuss money with a women that continually and over the years has herself brought it up than it is to call into question those that would imply that Anna slept with her son, was murdered by her lover etc.

So, in answer to your question....yes.

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THE mother of Anna Nicole Smith believes her tragic grandson Daniel Smith, who died of a lethal cocktail of drugs last month, may have been murdered - and she's hinting the culprit may have been in the hospital room when he died.

Virgie Arthur told Nancy Grace on CNN Headline News the other day she's also concerned that her estranged daughter's brand new hubby, lawyer Howard K. Stern, is now in line to inherit all of Anna Nicole's millions if anything ever happens to her. "If Howard Stern marries her and she ends up dead, then who does the money go [to]? Danny's not there," Arthur said.


Turns out the boy died of a lethal combination of prescription drugs. Hmmm... money brought up. DJ, I think not.

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MEDC:

I liked your earlier post.

Sarcasm at it's finest in some points, truth in others. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

But in the end, ANS ran a particular and outsized lifestyle.

Famous for being Famous.

Something like that.

And this is a money play for somebody. Whether they influenced the outcome or not. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Who? I don't know. And really do not care.

Tragedy Writ Large.

All the way around.

This thread is not like many around here. Usually, the threads are alot closer to home.

An nobody round here has any real claim to all the info. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> And the gossip can be fun. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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It is a far different to discuss money with a women that continually and over the years has herself brought it up than it is to call into question those that would imply that Anna sleapt with her son, was murdered by her lover etc.

MEDC, when Mulan posted her post about Anna and her son, she clearly stated that it was a RUMOR...not a fact.

You've vilified Anna's mother and claimed it was based on fact and observation, when clearly it was not. You ASSSUMED she didn't care about her daughter and you ASSUMED that her only motivation for wanting her grandchild was money! There is NO way you could KNOW those things.


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THE mother of Anna Nicole Smith believes her tragic grandson Daniel Smith, who died of a lethal cocktail of drugs last month, may have been murdered - and she's hinting the culprit may have been in the hospital room when he died.

Virgie Arthur told Nancy Grace on CNN Headline News the other day she's also concerned that her estranged daughter's brand new hubby, lawyer Howard K. Stern, is now in line to inherit all of Anna Nicole's millions if anything ever happens to her. "If Howard Stern marries her and she ends up dead, then who does the money go [to]? Danny's not there," Arthur said.



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Turns out the boy died of a lethal combination of prescription drugs. Hmmm... money brought up. DJ, I think not.


MEDC, Where did she say she didn't care about her daughter's death?

Where did she say she wanted her granddaughter so SHE could have the money?

There is much we still don't know about this.

Like, why was AN's son prescribed methadone?

Do we know whose names were on the prescription bottles that were recovered from her hotel room?

Why was Anna taking methadone?

Why did she have a personal nurse?

Maybe Anna's mother has a reason to be concerned for her grand daughter's well being...

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Mk,

Ok, so your conclusions are based on information which the rest of us really don't have access to. So our conclusions (varied as they may be) can be pointed out but you see where it is difficult to have your POV without knowing you know more?

Like someone watching the A on the sidelines......the conclusions we reach is often based on what we have seen and heard. Yes, each will draw their own conclusions. Some will be far right and others far left.

Those who are closer to the truth, can help. I think your point of 'knowing more than snippets' (or a comment to that effect), is telling. But I recommend that because you know more while you don't have to reveal how and why you know more, just letting us know maybe helpful.

Still without more trustworthy info, we (the public) will come to conclusions on what we see, hear and deduce.

Btw, $$ doesn't make life good. It is just a resource and how one uses their resources and makes their choices is how we can make their lives better.

I realize from having various experiences with life that when I don't know all, I still may come to a conclusion but it will be one that c/b subject to change as more is learned. I call it keeping an open mind. When I get reasonable info, I adjust. When I get stupid info, I throw it out.

So at this time, the fact is Anna and her son are dead. The baby is without a mother and brother with the world and the child not knowing who the real father is. That is tragic and a fact. All the other stuff has to fold into place. I expect that child will have a difficult life due to no fault of her own. The greed of those around her will make her life miserable.

I hope one of a few truly caring people with good hearts can be there to help her. As for the rest around her that are selfish and greedy, I hope they slip on poop. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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NASSAU, Bahamas — Anna Nicole Smith's romantic partner, longtime lawyer and alleged father of her infant daughter provided her son with one of the drugs that killed him — then tried to cover it up by flushing the remaining pills down the toilet, a report says.


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More than 20 witnesses will be called to testify, including one who allegedly insists that Howard K. Stern gave Daniel methadone before he died.


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The same witness also will tell officials that after Daniel's death, Stern flushed the remaining methadone down the toilet, TMZ reported.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,244169,00.html

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she lived her life idolizing Marilyn Monroe....she tried to be like her

she even wanted to be buried with her

she probably died just like her....
"are drugs involved"
"did someone murder her"
"could she have killed herself?"

people are talking about her just like they did Marilyn

both of them were lost souls looking for something they never found. using their beauty and their body to try to find it.

i guess in the end, she got what she wanted, she will be remembered just like marilyn.....

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...except Elton probably won't do a version of "Candle in the Wind" for her... ;-)

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Here's something totally off topic, yet with the last couple posts, sort of related. My Great Aunt actually modeled with Norma Jean and showed me pictures of the two of them together BEFORE Norma became Marilyn! It was pretty cool to talk to someone who "knew her when". She said she was very quiet and pretty much stayed to herself.

Ok, back to regular programing, and I too feel very sorry for the poor little baby girl and pray that someone truly caring and loving takes care of her so she can grow up at least somewhat normal.


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