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#1854278 04/01/07 03:20 PM
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  • I have hovered on this site for a while and now feel I need to reach out for advice and see if anyone has been in this situation. This may be long but bear with me. Here it goes.
    I have been married for 15 years. The last year we have been discussing separation/divorce. It has never been a good situation. I reached 40 and realized I don't know if I can do this "till death do us part". I basically believe it has been an abusive marriage. Not physically but emotionally/verbally. I am no stranger to the subject of dysfunctional relationships. I have been in and out of therapy since my 20's partly to deal with my own dysfunctional upbringing. I feel I have done alot of work on myself to get to a place of peace and acceptance.
    I think my marriage definitely fits the pattern of abuse. Years of verbal and emotional outbursts from H followed by periods of apologies, forgiveness and trying to make things better only to deal with it all over again. There was a period awhile back where I realized that I no longer felt anything when he apologized because I knew it would happen again. I'm sorry stopped meaning anything to me.
    Over the years I begged him to come to counseling w/ me because I knew our problem was bigger than just trying to be nice to each other. He refused saying we can fix this on our own.
    I guess I never thought I would give up on trying so I was devastated when I wake up one day about a year ago and realized that I did not feel any love anymore. At first I thought it was a phase and it would pass. Then I thought maybe it was mid life crisis. It has been a year and my feelings have not changed. I have done alot of soul searching to make sure it is not something w/in me. I don't want to end my marriage if it's something like mid life crisis or depression that is making me feel this way.
    After a few months of not feeling anything (I was in big depression, totally stressed, lost about 20 lbs.) I finally got the nerve to tell him I did not think I loved him anymore. He was totally surprised and devastated. Even though I told him for years he had know idea that his abusive ways would actually kill my love someday. He was finally able to listen and I felt that for the first time he was actually hearing me.
    He started to try. Went to marriage counseling, tried to control his anger and communicate better. He tried being more involved w/ the kids. His efforts were not consistent and w/in a few months he started falling back on his old ways. Things were better than they had been but not enough for me to feel truly different (I was still thinking of ending it). He began to get angry that even w/ effort on his part I wasn't able to come back emotionally after a few months. I began to get more angry because it took me falling out of love for him to finally try. I felt that it was too little too late.
    Anyway now I feel that the only hope of me healing enough and putting my guard down is to separate for 3-6 months. I am hoping this will spark some kind of willingness on my part to want to try. Right now I feel I have no desire to want to try and fall back in love and save my marriage. Can
    14 years of an abusive marraige actually make you shut down this much? Are we too far gone and am I fooling myself by thinking a separation can help or is it just the first step to divorce? I think if it wasn't for all the pain a divorce would bring I would just want to let my marriage go. Living in limbo is killing me. Thank you for putting up w/ this long post. Any advice would be appreciated.

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If you lost this weight and went to couseling likely you are feeling more energy and better about yourself. You are changing and he's not, and of course this can lead to trouble in a marriage. There's a book about Controlled Separation written by a counselor, I'm not sure the exact title, someone here might know. The counselor claims that separation in your situation can help, separation with rules - where you live, how often you see each other, dates, counseling - with a period of time. Other counselors might say, no don't separate as it takes the reason for you to work on your marriage away - and it's hard to work on a marriage when not living together. Statistics say once separated - and I don't know where they get the stats - it's not very high that a marriage works out. If you like reading, there's another book Hope for the Separated that's quite good too about working on issues while separated with the hope of making the marriage work. Dr. Phil says you should try to turn over every rock before ending a marriage, myabe you could try another counselor or something different. Obviously you've done a lot of "work" on your end. Is your husband open to going to counseling on his own as well? We all have issues and they come out in marriages, as we are like mirrors. I don't know what you mean by "abusive" marriage. The word is used loosely? And yes abusive or not when people hammer and hammer on each other verbally for years it's going to take it's toll. People start shutting down emotionally, some can heal and work on the marriage. Others can't. If you are still fighting, a shrink once told me there's hope. When you reach a point of complete apathy that's different. Another source for you that many on this site have read is Too Bad to Stay, too Good to Leave, it's a book that helps you decide what your marriage really is, how to define abuse, if you are still attracted and how much hope there really is - if you should stay or go basically. It's not like the Hope for the Separated book, it's not Christian but the counselor who wrote the book basically has you logically add up factors in your marriage - and gives examples of what can be fixed and what can't - based on studies of couples... ie those who leave and are typically happier years later and those who stay and really do the work. Of course separation can be the first step to a divorce, so be very careful - get some advise and wisdom - as you might be going in a direction where you can't go back very easily. I don't think anyone on this site is going to give you advice as we don't know what you mean by "abuse" and what you are dealing with, but I'm giving you some sources and ideas.


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