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#1860121 04/16/07 10:35 AM
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I am about 9 weeks from D-Day. After some false starts with a bad marriage counsleor we found a good one. So at the first session I say i want to try to work things out and my husband sayd he doesn't know if he wants to even try. All along he has been telling me he would try. He loves me but id not in love with me and is in loive with this co-worker with whom he had an almost 2 year affair.

I am so afraid of being alone but if it is going to happen anyway I need to get prepared. He is honoring his NC with OW and she is working with her husband in counsleing also but doesn't know if she wants to work it out either. THey have 3 kid and so she has a more vested interest in making it work. Has anyone experienced this before? Do you think they are both hedging thier bets that they can be together someday?
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Does he still WORK with OW?

If so, that's NOT NC. And that could be a huge reason why he's not ready to work on it.

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He does work with OW but I have exposed them and his boss wants him out of the company.

He moved his desk and we agreed with the counsleor that he would have NC and that I could ask once a day of he had any contact with ehr and he would be honest.

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Debbi, that just means he is still in contact. This is hopeless until contact really ends. He has to leave the company.

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He moved his desk and we agreed with the counsleor that he would have NC and that I could ask once a day of he had any contact with ehr and he would be honest.

That is just silly. Why would you expect honesty from a dishonest person? Your husband is completely UNTRUSTWORTHY. It is silly to expect honesty from an untrustworthy person. Your counselor is a fool.

first off, he is STILL in contact if they work together. And secondly, if they are getting it on in the car at lunchtime, he surely is not going to confess to you.

How do you know her H knows about the affair? Are you PERSONALLY in touch with him?


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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Take this to your counselor, it is from Dr. Willard Harley, a psychologist who specializes in infidelity and is the founder of Marriage Builders:


Dr. Harley in Coping with Infidelity: Part 2
How Should Affairs End?


Never see or communicate with a former lover

Once an affair is first revealed, whether it's discovered or admitted, the victimized spouse is usually in a state of shock. The first reaction is usually panic, but it's quickly followed by anger. Divorce and sometimes even murder are contemplated. But after some time passes (usually about three weeks), most couples decide that they will try to pull together and save their marriage.

The one having an affair is in no position to bargain, but he or she usually tries anyway. The bargaining effort usually boils down to somehow keeping the lover in the loop. You'd think that the unfaithful spouse would be so aware of his or her weaknesses, and so aware of the pain inflicted, that every effort would be made to avoid further contact with the lover as an act of thoughtfulness to the stunned spouse. But instead, the unfaithful spouse argues that the relationship was "only sexual" or was "emotional but not sexual" or some other peculiar description to prove that continued contact with the lover would be okay.

Most victimized spouses intuitively understand that all contact with a lover must end for life. Permanent separation not only helps prevent a renewal of the affair, but it is also a crucial gesture of consideration to someone who has been through ******. What victimized spouse would ever want to know that his or her spouse is seeing or communicating with a former lover at work or in some other activity?

In spite of career sacrifices, friendships, and issues relating to children's schooling, I am adamant in recommending that there be no contact with a former lover for life. For many, that means a move to another state. But to do otherwise fails to recognize the nature of addiction and its cure.

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We don't know if R.J. still sees his lover, but he says he has broken off all contact. In many cases where a person is still in town, that's hard to prove. But one thing's for sure, if he ever does see his lover, it will put him in a state of perpetual withdrawal from his addiction, and make the resolution of his marriage essentially impossible. In fact, one of the reasons he is not recovering after three months of separation may be that he is not being truthful about the separation.

Entire article at: http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi5060_qa.html


Mimi wrote: Check this out from the How to Survive an Affair chapter in HIS NEEDS, HER NEEDS..one of my favorite pieces of reading material...

p. 177

...I have seen husbands build new and wonderful relationships with their wives but then go back to their lovers after five or six years of what appeared to be marital bliss. When I ask them why, they inevitably tell me they miss the woman terribly and still love her. At the same time they stoutly affirm they love their wives dearly and would not think of leaving them.

I believe a man like this has told the truth. He is hopelessly entangled and needs all the help possible to be kept away from his lover and stay faithful to his wife. I often recommend that a man once involved in an affair come in to see me every three to six months on an indefinite basis, just to talk about how things are going and to let me know how successfully he has stayed away from his lover. He must resign himself to a lifetime without her. HE MUST CERTAINLY NOT WORK WITH HIS FORMER LOVER AND SHOULD PROBABLY LIVE IN SOME OTHER CITY OR STATE. Even with those restrictions the desire for her company persists...


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They can't continue to work together. Until you get no contact between them, marriage counseling is a waste of time.

The infidels will tell you otherwise. Mental health professionals may even tell you that the two of them can continue to work together. Don't believe it.

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THnaks everyone for your words. SO he is looking for a job but it could take a couplke of months and we are not in a fincial position for him to wuit. Do I just hang in there until he finds something and then worry about counsleing?

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dan, I was in a similar position. My WS cheated with a lesbian co-worker and I didn't insist on her leaving her job immediately because of financial issues as well. Well, guess what? Eventually they drifted back together and it was only by accident that I caught it, and exposed to her management the next day.

But she still had to serve out her notice period (she made all kinds of excuses why she couldn't just leave like that, and I bought it). Well, sometime during her notice period she and OW got back in contact.

Today, she's moved out, the affair is going on full throttle, I'm fed up and I'm walking away. Don't let the same happen to you. The finances will sort itself out, like it did with me. I still have to support myself on a single income now that she's gone now anyway...


Dev BS - 31 (me) WW - 29 M ~2 years, No kids DDay - 2nd Dec 2006 Exposed - 15th Jan 2007 NC started - 14th Jan 2007 NC broken 23rd Jan 2007 NC broken many times since Status: WS moved out 22 March 07 "to think"; A ongoing still; 2nd July 2007 - signed Divorce papers "I'm done!"

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