http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/0419_baldwin.mp3
Alec Baldwin abuses his 11 year old verbally... disgusting. IMHO, he should be denied access to this child.
What is wrong with people....

I heard it on the news this morning....nearly made me sick.

Wonder how his spin doctors are going to try to fix this one...cos I don't believe it's fixable.

One more thing...I'm just as sick about it that it was allowed to be leaked to the public, and not handled by CPS like it should have been.

Now that poor girl has every one of her friends know what a spiteful, hateful a$$ she has for a father.

How sad for her, many times over.

MEDC - that's a rhetorical question, right?

You know my answer, and I assume it's your answer too.

It's pretty hard to consider anyone else when all one can see is "ME!"

Worldviews? Seems obvious what his is.

Maybe his brother can help him a little, but I doubt if he'd listen even to him.

Kim Basinger has (for years) used her daughter as a weapon against Alec.

Both parents are equally guilty of putting the "ME" before the "Ireland".

no matter what she has done... this is just unacceptable on his part.

Alec Baldwin MUST be mentally ill...That made me cry...That poor little girl...The damage that is being done to her is just immeasurable...She needs to be hugged and loved so badly...

Mrs. W

Kim & Alec are equally volatile ....

From Penalty Kill

MEDC, if ever a story had two sides it is this one; she's done plenty of unacceptable things herself. The games those two have played in and out of court are ridiculous, and this is just another stunt. Kim Basinger leaked the tape to TMZ. Do you think that was in the best interests of her daughter? Qui bono?

In divorce, the kids are the biggest losers.

I agree that to leak that to TMZ was HORRIBLY ABUSIVE to Ireland as well...Bless her little heart, she is alone with no sane parent advocating for her...

Mrs. W

yes, the leak was terrible... yes, Kim is terrible for using her daughter...
that does not change that what this man has done is horrible.... and frankly somebody step into this mess soon before this little girl is past the point of being able to recover from the mess that is her life.
I don't know anything about their situation... but I would venture a guess that if he talked to his 11 year old daughter this way that HE is responsible for the vast majority of problems in their marriage. It just seems like a safe bet that ANYONE that would talk to their child like this for ANY REASON would also take the opportunity to be abusive to the adults in his life too... just a hunch on my part.

and do we know that Kim B. leaked this... who is to say that her daughter did not forward the message to a friend and it got out that way.... I don't know those facts but I do know what I heard from him was abusive to the tenth degree.

When two people are unreasonable in a divorce sitch this is what happens. If Baldwin believes he's right then he should step back, act like an adult and watch the chips fall in his favor. Basinger has violated two court orders for visitation and been held in contempt once. Baldwin is trying to control the situation and he has an anger management problem. Cooler heads always prevail, esp in divorce. There is no excuse for him speaking to his daughter that way, regardless of age. Calling her a pig? Fiver says that kid ends up on a pole or with a needle in her arm with those two whack jobs as parents.

Usually ... but not always. Sometimes they are the biggest winners...getting away from an abusive parent can do wonders for a child. But most of the time, yes, I would agree.

I'd say both parents are "undone" and my heart goes out to that child.

Pep, I have not doubt that both Alec and Kim are very "ME" oriented people and their daughter is caught in the middle. It seems time for a GAL to be appointed and NO unsupervised visitation allowed.

However, I was responding to Alec's latest temper tantrum. I'm sure you would agree that "two wrongs do not make a right." I am also sure you would agree that what some other person does or doesn't do is NO excuse for our "poor behavior."

This tirade of Alec Baldwin's toward an 11 year old is unacceptable under any circumstances, imho. Alec is "god," or so it would appear from his threats to "straighten her out." As if he, in his wonderful example of love, could straighten anyone out. He can't even straighten himself out.

Kim, we can leave to another day, perhaps if it is learned that she was the one who "leaked" the voice recording to the media. I believe there is a "gag" order in place. Needless to say, that is also why I think it's time for the courts to appoint a GAL, for the protection of this child from her self-centered parents.

I guess it's another sad example that anyone can "make a baby," but it takes more than being a sperm donor or and egg donor to make a father and a mother who ARE parents.

God bless.

From Pep:
"Kim & Alec are equally volatile .... "




Well, before this, it was all speculation...hearsay through the media.....we had no idea who was who....unless YOU know them both PERSONALLY.

But with this evidence, it is hardly a leap of faith that he was abusive to Kim, this kind of behavior does NOT just come about, and there is andecdotal evidence that Alec has demostrated this behavior before.....so at this point...I'll give Kim SOME benefit of the doubt.

If any woman on these boards came here in the midst of marrital troubles and told the story of what was said, verbatum what Alec said, I doubt ANYONE would critisize the mother for protecting her child from that kind of behavior....and if getting it out in the open was part of protecting her, by EXPOSING this horrible behavior .....then SO BE IT!!!

THIS IS ABUSE! AND THE RULES CHANGE WHEN THERE IS ABUSE....NO CIVILITY, NO "MAKING NICE" with ALEC, FOR THE DAUGHTER'S SAKE.....NONE OF THAT, EXCEPT PROTECT!! And until I hear any rock solid evidence of atrocities by Kim, greater than what was demonstrated in that tape, I give her FULL REIGN to protect her daughter.

And just so everyone knows, I really don't care for either of them, politically speaking.....but this is nuts!!!

Bringing up ANYTHING that Kim MAY or MAY NOT have done in the past or present......(from what I've seen) doesn't hold a candle to this tyraid!!!! Sorry Alec....I love Hunt for Red October......but it will be watched with shame for now on from my eyes.....if at all!

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I feel very sorry for all 3 of them.

I hear many things that should never have been said by Alec. No doubt about it. He should never have said those things to his child. It was WRONG WRONG WRONG.

But if Kim leaked this - she is disgusting for doing so. And if it has been her mission to turn her daughter against her own father - then she is dispicable.

Ireland does not need to be protected from her parents, she needs to be LOVED by them and that means they both calm down, stop thinking about their selfish selves and BOTH parents show respect for each other around their child. That includes Alec controlling his tongue and Kim making it clear to her daughter that she does indeed show her father some respect by answering his phone calls. Both parents need to GROW UP and show some respect for each other as that is the only way their daughter will have any respect for them.

Here's what Alec has had to say for anyone who's interested:

"Although I have been told by numerous people not to worry too much, as all parents lose their patience with their kids, I am most saddened that this was released to the media because of what it does to a child," he wrote.

"I'm sorry, as everyone who knows me is aware, for losing my temper with my child. I have been driven to the edge by parental alienation for many years now. You have to go through this to understand. (Although I hope you never do.) I am sorry for what happened. But I am equally sorry that a court order was violated, which had deliberately been put under seal in this case."

"In such public cases, your opponents attempt to take a picture of you on your worst day and insist that this is who you are as a person," Baldwin wrote.

"Outside the doors of divorce court, I have friends, I have respect from people I work with and I have a normal relationship with my daughter. All of that is threatened whenever one enters a court room."