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Sorry, there is NO excuse for how he treated his little girl...N O N E...Bunch of hogwash rationalizations and justifications from him...BLECH!

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I spent almost a month not seeing my daughter in Feb 2006. Not because of something I had done wrong but because my ex decided to be unreasonable, selfish, and power hungry. I know the frustration Baldwin speaks of. Yet,not ONCE did I lose my temper with my daughter or take ANYTHING out on here. As a matter a fact I became more patient, more gentle, more caring. I became a better father due to my struggle. Why? Because my atty, my friends, my family assured me that being the bigger person would net a greater gain down the road and my daughter would see my behavior and be influenced by it.I have never spoken illof my ex in front of her.I have never mentioned the struggles,the ugliness,or anything about the split to my child.Yes she is currently 3 and a half and that age she is less inclined to understand but toddlers are capable of understanding selfishness and mean spiritedness. Baldwin threatnded his daughter, called her a pig,and blamed her for soe of his own shortcomings.This young girl is learning that losing your emtions,using anger to communicate, and being self absorbed is a way of life in her family.I am cheering for Larry Birkhead to get custody of Ireland.The man is on a roll,you never know.


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I had 17 MONTHS without seeing my son all because his mom wanted to be a witch. That would assure me that EVERY time I spoke to my son after that, I would so sincerely appreciate the relationship we had. Alec's spin doctors have it all wrong... he should be extra nice to her right now. The man is an idiot and frankly does not deserve to see his child. He got caught acting like an a$$ and now he is looking for excuses. Sad, pathetic man.

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MEDC, imho his "acting veneer" parted for a moment and we got to see the "real Alec Baldwin." The one that he seems to think is just okay and normal, but that he wants to hide from everyone else.

Strike three! He is, imho, unfit to be a parent of anyone. He needs treatment, but since he thinks he's "normal," he's not likely to seek it voluntarily (other than as another typical "Hollywood-style" check in to rehab dodge).

Anyone else hear "fog talk" in what he said in his "rebuttal?"

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Having been an 11 year old girl once with an abusive father (but not to this degree of obscenity) and who verbally abused her mother, had I had any kind of self-worth and fatigue at the public lies that Ireland has endured (from or both parents, at this point - she's the only one who really knows), *I* would have been the one to "out" this pig-of-a-father. If she has any sense of self-worth at all, she'd want to remove all doubt who the real pig in the family is. Especially if she knows herself to NOT be a pig, she wouldn't be worried about what her friends think about what her pig-of-a-father calls her. She'd want to make it so that she never had to see his lying fraud of a face again!


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I have to admit I'm suprised at how strongly people feel about what Alec said. Maybe I came from an abusive family and just don't realise it.

My father often told me I asked stupid questions and would totally ignore me, called me names, strapped me with his belt from a young age to mid teens, my mother called me a 'bit£h' I don't know how many times amongst other things and physically hit me and slapped me across the face often and both said things that brought me to secret tears in my bedroom at night.

But I love my parents and I know that they would do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING for me and love me more than life itself. It wouldn't matter what anybody said about that, I simply know it's the truth, no matter what my childhood was like - because there is so much in it that told me how much they loved me. They have opened their home to me and my daughter after my WH left and are reconsidering their entire retirement plan because they both say my daughter and I are his first priority now.

Are you all from perfect families or something?!! (And that is a genuine question...not sarcasm at all).

What exactly is abuse? Are you saying this is not actually quite normal behaviour in families? (normal not being the best pick of words for me to use - I understand).

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Calling your daughter a "pig" is not normal behavior.
he things you describe from your childhood are also not normal and certainly VERY abusive.
No one is from a perfect family... but there is a lot of space in between perfect and what you have described.

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And both Alec and Kim are PETA spokespeople. The irony.


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And both Alec and Kim are PETA spokespeople. The irony.


lol!

Consider the misplaced priorities.

Excuse me, time to enjoy a nicely grilled steak.

What was that old phrase? "A chicken in every pot!"

I guess some "pigs" rate higher on the PETA meter!

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This guy is a class one azz and was before this ever hit the airwaves. He has anger management issues and is a narcissit. If Basinger has done equally bad things then she too needs to be held accountable BUT nothing she has done justifies this rant by this lunatic to his 11 year old daughter (amazing how he didn't even know how old she was...)

Also, trying to take the blame from himself by projecting it onto "this should have not been leaked and yada, yada...." does not change the fact that it wouldn't be an issue if he HADN'T done it to begin with. This is the same thing waywards do.

He's an idiot. Basinger apparently has issues too. I pray the poor little girl doesn't need a shrink the rest of her life.

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