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lol nope not her
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LMAOPMP Moveforward. It's the only type of swinging I've ever encountered too. I've NEVER met a swinger. I'm not so naive as to think it doesn't happen in little old conservative NZ but it's the truth. I've NEVER met anyone in an "open" marriage. I know it must seem odd that an FWW has this viewpoint but, to me, swinging is a sexual perversion right up there with having sex with chickens. I actually valued my vows, even during the A. The first thing I said to the OM was "OMG I've broken my marriage vows and I've broken one of the 10 commandments." It's true, that is what I said. Unfortunately, that didn't stop me. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAA...MoFo *snicker* you made me LOL ~and~ think of that song from 80s..."Swingin'" by John Anderson! Y'all remember dat one? TOO FUNNY!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Swingin' by John Anderson
There's a little girl, in our neighborhood
Her name is Charlotte Johnson and she's really lookin good
I had to go and see her, so I called her on the phone
I walked over to her house, and this was goin' on
Her brother was on the sofa, eatin' chocolate pie
Her moma was in the kitchen cuttin' chicken up to fry
Her daddy was in the back yard rollin up a garden hose
I was on the porch with Charlotte feelin' love down to my toes
Chorus:
And we were swingin' (swinging)
Yes we were swingin' (swinging)
Little Charlotte she's as pretty as the angels when they sing
I can't believe I'm out here on the front porch swing
Just a swingin' (swingin) Just a swingin' (swingin)
Now Charlotte she's a darlin she's the apple of my eye
When I'm on the swing with her it makes me almost high
Now Charlotte is my lover and she has been since the spring
I can't believe it started on her front porch in the swing
Chorus:repeat Mrs. W
FWW ~ 47 ~ MeFBH ~ 50 ~ MrWonderingDD ~ 17 Dday ~ 2005 ~ Recovered
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ROFL - Exactly Mrs. W. That is the song I think of when I hear swinging. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Jen, I typed in New Zealand and swingers - I'm sure you will be sad to know that there swingers clubs in your fair country.
I honestly think we would be surprised to know who actually swings.
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Yes I know Moveforward. I didn't think we were exempt for a minute.
I just find it repulsive.
Do you know why I find it repulsive. Believe it or not, when I married my H I meant for us to be exclusive for the rest of our lives. Marriage was a "no other people invited" zone. I messed that up and for that I will be eternally sorry but the thought of letting your spouse be "available" to others because that's what makes "things exciting" makes me feel sick.
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>to STOP AND CONSIDER
>"gee, IS IT POSSIBLE that my desire to swap sex and share >my spouse with other people .... IS IT POSSIBLE that this >MIGHT cause damage to my family and thus my children?"
>here's a CLUE
>IF YOU DO NOT WANT IT ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE NEWSPAPER >OR SPREAD ALL OVER YOU-TUBE .... ***** DON'T DO IT ****
By that logic, married couples shouldn't have sex with each other either. After all, you wouldn't want sex with your spouse to be spread all over youtube or the front page of the newspaper...unless of course...you are both exhibitionists.
Of course it's wrong for parents to swing to the exclusion of caring for their children but there are non-swinging parents who ignore their kids, too. One has nothing to do with the other.
It also makes no sense to call it adultery or infidelity when both spouses agree. Adultery/infidelity/cheating involve promise breaking, lying and sneaking around. Swingers and open-marriage people are very open and honest with each other about what they're doing, what they're feeling, etc. Affairs don't resemble that at all.
Now it may be true that it's difficult to remain emotionally connected to a spouse when you are distracted by other sexual partners. But that's for the married couple to decide, not outside busy-bodies.
And btw, a friend of mine was raised by parents who had an open marriage. He did not suffer in any way because of it. He was not neglected in any way and his parents were nice people. AND they were not divorced. His parents stayed married for life.
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Ah, Aphrodite, I'd logged out but checked in again.
Excuse me, it's not JUST for the married couple to decide who should be involved when you are distracted by other sexual partners.
For me, there were four people involved. Me, my H, the OM and the OM's wife. NOT just a married couple.
Actually there were more people involved. My two adult children and his three adult children.
So now we have a count of 9 people involved.
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There's actually more people involved.
My sister, my mother, my SIL, my BIL's (x2), my nieces and nephews. In fact my whole fam damily was involved.
Friends were involved.
The head count is getting higher and higher.
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Oh, then there's the OM's side. His mother, her mother, his SIL's and BIL's and friends.
Gosh, the head count is getting higher and higher and higher.
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Swinging makes me puke.
If you want to share each other with other people, forget marriage. It's a complete sham and farce.
The only thing that separates marriage from any other relationships is sexual exclusivity.
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By that logic, married couples shouldn't have sex with each other either. After all, you wouldn't want sex with your spouse to be spread all over youtube or the front page of the newspaper...unless of course...you are both exhibitionists. If I have hot monkey sex with my husband ... and my community became aware of it for some strange reason .... I would not be very upset... WE ARE MARRIED AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO ENJOY EACH OTHER SEXUALLY ... I have NO SHAME in that regard .... none! however if your many adulteries become known to your children, their friends, your grocer, your pastor, not to mention your husband ... I dare say .... you may have some 'splainin' to do Lucy I do not "want" my sex life out in public, but if that happened, that's OK [b]I am not doing anything that is morally reprehensible that I need to hide/lie about/feel shame for
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By that logic, married couples shouldn't have sex with each other either. After all, you wouldn't want sex with your spouse to be spread all over youtube or the front page of the newspaper...unless of course...you are both exhibitionists.
Of course it's wrong for parents to swing to the exclusion of caring for their children but there are non-swinging parents who ignore their kids, too. One has nothing to do with the other.
It also makes no sense to call it adultery or infidelity when both spouses agree. Adultery/infidelity/cheating involve promise breaking, lying and sneaking around. Swingers and open-marriage people are very open and honest with each other about what they're doing, what they're feeling, etc. Affairs don't resemble that at all.
Now it may be true that it's difficult to remain emotionally connected to a spouse when you are distracted by other sexual partners. But that's for the married couple to decide, not outside busy-bodies.
And btw, a friend of mine was raised by parents who had an open marriage. He did not suffer in any way because of it. He was not neglected in any way and his parents were nice people. AND they were not divorced. His parents stayed married for life. Consider the source. This is what you posted on your own thread. A couple of months ago I would have said, woo-hoo maybe I can convince him to have an open marriage! But I wouldn't want that if it just created greater (emotional) distance between us. So I would be worried. I would not be furious, though, because I did the same and we are apart, after all. Of course if he said he loved her or was leaving me for her, then it would be different. That would crush me. So swinging is a plus for you as long as BH doesn't love any of them? Well, at least you have your standards. Of course, if we go back to the concept that a screen name speaks to the character of the poster, your screen name clearly says you are a serial cheater and proud of it. Didn't the followers of Aphrodite practice ritual prostitution? (i.e. swinging) But, since I think you are really just a troll, I'll simply ignore you from now on.
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It also makes no sense to call it adultery or infidelity when both spouses agree. Adultery/infidelity/cheating involve promise breaking, lying and sneaking around. Swingers and open-marriage people are very open and honest with each other about what they're doing, what they're feeling, etc. Affairs don't resemble that at all. NADA. American Heritage Dictionary - a·dul·ter·y Pronunciation Key n. pl. a·dul·ter·ies Voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a partner other than the lawful spouse. CHECK PLEASE! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Me thinks people only want to call it adultery when they are not a part of that particular swing time.
They want to cry FOUL!!!!!!!!ADULTERY!ADULTERY!
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[color:"red"] Clarification: The people that engage in the swinging stuff....they do not call it adultery...at first. Then, when their spouse gets some without them knowing it...THAT is when they climb the adultery bandwagon. They cheated on me....they cheated on me...ADULTERY! Adultery!!![/color]
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In other words, they accepted adultery on Monday and when they changed their mind on Tuesday, suddenly became a 'victim" overnight? Instant victimhood! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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How does one even begin to POJA sin? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Because two people agree to commit a sinful act, does not make the act any less sinful.
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Exactly...
Nice little label for it to be a "legitimate" complaint...huh.
And....while I am at it...I am gonna ask about these "feelings" thing.
People always saying...its ok to have those feelings...no one can tell you that you shouldn't feel that way... well...I beg to differ.
You can understand a parallel, so if my chops get busted, at least one person knows what I mean.
If a burglar's house is broken into...and HIS things are stolen, I happen to think he has NO right to think that he has been violated. Dish it out...you have to be able to take it...NO COMPLAINTS!
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apposite to this topic HEREscroll down to look at Marital Arrangements and the purpose of Marital Arrangements "Some set out to keep their marriages defective and distant. " which is why people get into all this weirdness ... it is DISTANCING themselves from intimacy on purpose
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Pittman says: Infidelity is a very messy hobby. It is not an effective way to find a new mate or a new life.
It is not a safe treatment for depression, boredom, imperfect marriage, or inadequate gender splendor. And it certainly does not impress the rest of us. It does not work for women any better than it does for men. It does excite the senses and the imaginations of those who merely hear the tales of lives and deaths for love, who melt at the sound of liebestods or country songs of love gone wrong.
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